2022 Post-Season | Division Series | Yankees vs. Guardians | Oct. 11 - ?, 2022

[David.]

Is this good or bad relatively?

Here’s a secret. A robo-ump would get 100% of these.

Literally why don't they show the strike zone screen on the big screen so the ump can see it

Nvm sign stealing probably

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Tough task tonight against Gerit Cole. In three starts against the Guardians this year he's pitched 19 innings, allowing 11 hits, and 3 earned runs. All three runs came on solo home runs (Naylor, Rosario, Kwan). Other than those three pitches the G's have not been able to score on Cole at all. No runs resulting from putting base hits and walks together.

With the Yankees facing the end of their season if they don't win I expect Cole will step up and earn his money with another masterful performance. Considering the inconsistency of the Yankees' bullpen I expect Girardi will leave Cole in well over the 100 pitch mark. Cole threw 101 pitches in the series opener and left with one out in the 7th.

Cole has thrown as many as 118 pitches this year and has five games of 110 pitches or more. I won't be surprised if they ask him to go 8 or even 9 innings depending on the score and his pitch count. I'll actually be surprised if he doesn't throw at least 110 pitches tonight.

 

[Derek]

Excellent comment.

There is something to be said for having a player on the roster who is proven to have produced in clutch, game winning situations. Amed has done exactly that, time and time and time again.

Is he a "star"? No. But that just makes him relatively affordable compared to players who are perceived as "stars" like Lindor, etc.

There is such a thing as chemistry. There is such a thing as veteran leadership. Amed has proven himself to be beneficial to both of those things. Jose Ramirez has spoken out in favor of keeping him around, not something that can just be dismissed without consideration.

I know the front office has to make tough decisions and make moves based on projected talent coming up through the system. If they decided to move Amed I would accept it and hope they made the best choice for the long run.

But there is always a valid argument to be made for keeping proven talent.

I don’t want to rain on anyones parade or bad talk Amed, but I’m seeing a lot of things posted that just aren’t true.

Amed’s postseason wRC+ is 90, not 112 like @CATS44 said. That’s 10% below average.

Amed also isn’t someone I would consider clutch. He routinely puts up terrible at bats in big spots. This postseason, especially. His total numbers with RISP are much like his overall line, average.

Also, Jose has been great friends with a lot of guys that have been traded or let go by the organization. That won’t factor in, nor should it.

Amed is a fine player, and I’m happy we’ve had him in tow for the last few years. He’s definitely a guy I’ll applaud whenever he visits with his new team.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

If Hedges starts at catcher, Naylor at first, and Arias at DH (or vice versa) we'll have four players we got in the Clevinger trade starting the game, including Cal Quantrill. A fifth, Owen Miller, will be on the bench.

Clevinger started in one game against the Dodgers and gave up 4 runs in 2.2 innings in a game the Pads lost 5-3. It was the only game they lost in the series. For the season Sunshine was 7-7 with a 4.33 ERA in 22 starts.

It would be incredible if the Padres and Guardians were to meet in the World Series. San Diego has never had a World Champion in any of the four main pro sports. They have the 5th highest payroll in baseball at $237 million. They just eliminated the best Dodgers team of all time, based on their franchise record 111 wins.

Francisco Lindor went 2-for-10 in the playoffs as the Mets were eliminated in three games. He had a home run. Carlos Carrasco did not pitch. He was 15-7 this year in 29 starts with a 3.97 ERA. He has one more year on his contract at $14 million.

Six of the 10 starters for the Guardians tonight will be from the Clevinger and Lindor trades assuming Hedges and Arias start.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

 

[KilgoreTrout]

If Hedges starts at catcher, Naylor at first, and Arias at DH (or vice versa) we'll have four players we got in the Clevinger trade starting the game, including Cal Quantrill. A fifth, Owen Miller, will be on the bench.

Clevinger started in one game against the Dodgers and gave up 4 runs in 2.2 innings in a game the Pads lost 5-3. It was the only game they lost in the series. For the season Sunshine was 7-7 with a 4.33 ERA in 22 starts.

It would be incredible if the Padres and Guardians were to meet in the World Series. San Diego has never had a World Champion in any of the four main pro sports. They have the 5th highest payroll in baseball at $237 million. They just eliminated the best Dodgers team of all time, based on their franchise record 111 wins.

Francisco Lindor went 2-for-10 in the playoffs as the Mets were eliminated in three games. He had a home run. Carlos Carrasco did not pitch. He was 15-7 this year in 29 starts with a 3.97 ERA. He has one more year on his contract at $14 million.

Six of the 10 starters for the Guardians tonight will be from the Clevinger and Lindor trades assuming Hedges and Arias start.

Don’t want any sympathy for the other team, in the World Series, if we get that far.

And didn’t the Chargers win the AFL in 1963?

 

[KilgoreTrout]

Last night was fun. Let’s do it again!

 

[Mr. Orange]

One game, one series at a time

 

[CATS44]

There were 51 rookies in MLB this year who had at least 200 PAs. Twenty of them had an OPS of at least .715. Two of them were Kwan and Oscar.

Many of them were among the elite, big name prospects...unlike any of ours.

Many, many more came up, fell on their faces, and went back down.

Out of the 90 that got at least 100 PAs, only 34 had an OPS of at least .715.

To shrug and say that it would be easy to replace Ameds offensive production next year with a rookie ignores a lot of statistical data. It can happen, but the odds are against it.

You also have to take into account what the kids actually did this year.

Arias .712 OPS
Freeman .707
Rocchio .755

All against much worse pitching and without the pressure attendant with MLB. I know that each has a legit excuse, but it still was not against elite competition.

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Defensively, Amed catches what he gets to. His range is problematic, which becomes even more so with the shift being banned. However, you can't ignore the fact that he catches what he gets to better than the three prospects we are talking about.

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I dont expect a long term extension for Amed, but I also don't expect this FO and Tito to make a purposeful step backward, which the odds say trading Amed would be. If its not quite there yet...which will be proven one way or the other very soon...this team is on the verge of becoming a monster.

And none of this considers the fact that the success this team and org is due to...more than anything else...culture, clubhouse presence, and sense of family. What we are watching is the extremely rare professional team play like a high school team.

Amed is the poster boy for this culture...a player whose value supercedes his on the field production.

It was said that when Franmil was cut, the move opened some eyes among the kids on this team. They got the hint. They would get an entirely different hint if Amed was traded, esp if it was merely for more and younger prospects.

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I have no idea what the thinking was on both sides when Jose was extended, but I highly doubt that the idea that was that Jose expected to remain in an org that was gonna be in perpetual rebuild.

I also highly doubt that the conversation involving Tito, Jose, and Amed before the season included the idea that even if the two players performed as asked, Amed would be dumped.

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I'm any case, this team is now a contender. It is not signing any short term free agents with the idea that their value is in trading them at the deadline for prospects. Any short term addition will be to help the team now, while providing a bridge to the next prospect that is ready to hit the ground running.

In a way that short term bridge is Amed and Rocchio is the prospect...or maybe Martinez.

The team also needs a RH bat capable of playing 1B/corner outfield...a super utility type to be an upgrade offensively and defensively over Miller. Unless the FO makes a trade for such a player, Arias gets the first shot.

Every move this org has made this year points in that direction. The moment Rocchio arrived in Columbus, Arias began being groomed to be our super utility player, not the shortstop of the future.

 

[CBBI]

Tough task tonight against Gerit Cole. In three starts against the Guardians this year he's pitched 19 innings, allowing 11 hits, and 3 earned runs. All three runs came on solo home runs (Naylor, Rosario, Kwan). Other than those three pitches the G's have not been able to score on Cole at all. No runs resulting from putting base hits and walks together.

With the Yankees facing the end of their season if they don't win I expect Cole will step up and earn his money with another masterful performance. Considering the inconsistency of the Yankees' bullpen I expect Girardi will leave Cole in well over the 100 pitch mark. Cole threw 101 pitches in the series opener and left with one out in the 7th.

Cole has thrown as many as 118 pitches this year and has five games of 110 pitches or more. I won't be surprised if they ask him to go 8 or even 9 innings depending on the score and his pitch count. I'll actually be surprised if he doesn't throw at least 110 pitches tonight.

Is the Girardi thing just a bit that has gone over my head?

 

[CATS44]

I don’t want to rain on anyones parade or bad talk Amed, but I’m seeing a lot of things posted that just aren’t true.

Amed’s postseason wRC+ is 90, not 112 like @CATS44 said. That’s 10% below average.

Amed also isn’t someone I would consider clutch. He routinely puts up terrible at bats in big spots. This postseason, especially. His total numbers with RISP are much like his overall line, average.

Also, Jose has been great friends with a lot of guys that have been traded or let go by the organization. That won’t factor in, nor should it.

Amed is a fine player, and I’m happy we’ve had him in tow for the last few years. He’s definitely a guy I’ll applaud whenever he visits with his new team.

This season....

With RISP, Amed is batting .299.
With runners on, .314.
With runner on third, less than two outs, .419.
With runner on third, 2 outs, .385.
With RISP, two outs, .271

In close games late, .291.

He keeps the line moving. The whole idea of this offense is to keep the line moving. And not one of those numbers is merely average.

 

[CATS44]

Is the Girardi thing just a bit that has gone over my head?

No, its a mistake, and one that I have done.

 

[Real Deal]

One game, one series at a time

Did they get any 'big hits' lately?

 

[jjvors]

I missed the game, but I watched the highlights. I celebrate with my fellow fans!

 

[The Oi]

Girardi will have these guys ready to roll tonight. Cannot take them too lightly.