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2023 Browns Off-Season Thread II: Free Agent Marathon: Settling in for the Long Haul: Slow and Steady: Patience is a Virtue: Loose Lips Sink Ships!

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MGMT said:
So given the injury history and your perception of its severity -/ whatever that may be — how far would you take the pursuit of him from a yearly and monetary stand point? Sorry if I missed it, but I don’t recall you mentioning that piece in discussion thus far
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Ideally I’d love to keep it to a 2 year deal, but I’d do 3 if that’s what it took. Something like 2/25 or 3/34, but that’s also knowing our FO is very shrewd with massaging the cap to our future needs

Really a lot of my interest is in trusting Watson and giving him the best pieces he wants
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
I still think people are overthinking it.

You already spent the 240M dollars don’t balk at the 12M now.

Watson wants him, make your best effort to get him. Don’t skimp on maintenance costs of a quarter billion dollar investment

And yes I know the opportunity costs, but this is also a pretty unique situation
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Agreed.

Watson returning to form is far more important than a few million or any WR3/WR4 in the league.

The Browns should do anything it takes to help get him there. Even if it means overpaying an old buddy. Just fucking do it.
 
Hurl Bruce said:
Regardless of losing a step or not, Hopkins arguably has the best hands and widest catch radius in the league. That sort of thing doesn't go away when a guy hits his 30s.
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True. But if you look at someone like julio jones who had great hands and a huge catch radius he completely fell off once he lost some speed.
 
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True. But if you look at someone like julio jones who had great hands and a huge catch radius he completely fell off once he lost some speed.
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I don't know. I wouldn't categorize Julio and Nuk as the same style of receiver. I've never thought about Nuk as a burner or elite athlete like I have Julio. I don't think the fall-off for Nuk would be as severe as it was for Julio. Also, Nuk hasn't had major injury concerns that I'm aware of.
 


These are still mostly instruction-based practices with no contact allowed and 7-on-7s as the only competitive periods. Still, from a second viewing, it’s clear the Browns are stressing three things: fast tempo, an attacking mindset on defense and feeding wide receiver Elijah Moore.

Moore was frequently targeted by Deshaun Watson throughout the practice, mostly on quick passes. Their best connection of the day came in a red-zone 7-on-7 period for a touchdown as Moore used a double move and turned to see the ball delivered right where he wanted it.
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Experimenting with roles and personnel​

We’re seeing Moore line up in different spots and plenty of Moore going in motion. How his exact role shakes out remains to be seen, but from two open practices, it’s clear the Browns want to get him the ball on short passes and let him create. We’ve seen bits and pieces of wide receivers lining up in the backfield, jet motions and what appear to be designed rollouts or run-pass options, but mostly just glimpses to this point.

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“(Moore) has great flexibility; inside and outside flexibility,” Browns offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt said. “He can run individual routes outside and win out there. He can come into the slot and has the twitch to win in the slot as well. He has excellent hands and a good feel for the game. So, he’s really a complete receiver that can play both inside and out.”
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