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2023 MLB Regular Season Thread

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The Rangers and Marlins, both of whom are perched precariously in their respective frenetic wild-card races, are not exactly the only teams who saw their pitching staffs looking far different this time of year. In fact, contenders in both leagues enter the final two weeks of the regular season with starting rotations that have been perforated by injuries and other calamities repeatedly. As the standings are now, more playoff teams will enter October with patched-together or inexperienced rotations than will get there with their aces intact. And the most strenuous, pressure-packed innings lie ahead.
 
Rangers, Mariners, and Jays are in a tussle for the final 2 Wild Card slots with 14/15/13 games left. (We have really dinged the Rangers hopes.)

Marlins, Reds, and D-Backs all fighting for a single slot, with the Cubs a little out front of them.

Plenty of drama left, and we can spoil it for Texas, Cinci, and Baltimore.
 
Rangers, Mariners, and Jays are in a tussle for the final 2 Wild Card slots with 14/15/13 games left. (We have really dinged the Rangers hopes.)

Marlins, Reds, and D-Backs all fighting for a single slot, with the Cubs a little out front of them.

Plenty of drama left, and we can spoil it for Texas, Cinci, and Baltimore.

I actually want to see that Baltimore crew win the East to be sincere... I feel like it somehow is their year!
 
Kind of cool - the last two knuckleballers to win a MLB game began their pro careers with Cleveland.

 
Kind of cool - the last two knuckleballers to win a MLB game began their pro careers with Cleveland.


This could have been in the ex-Indian thread as well lol
 
so I see the Rays are gonna get a new stadium. Does that solve their attendance issues? Just had the sense that the area (florida - lol) doesnt have much interest in regular season baseball
 
so I see the Rays are gonna get a new stadium. Does that solve their attendance issues? Just had the sense that the area (florida - lol) doesnt have much interest in regular season baseball
No. The new stadium will be in St. Pete as well. Pain for anyone on the other side of Tampa Bay (Tampa from the east, Sarasota/Bradenton from the south) through traffic and over the bridges. The difference for me is a 45 minute/hour drive to Ybor where the other stadium plan was for or 1 hour 30+ to Tropicana.
 
so I see the Rays are gonna get a new stadium. Does that solve their attendance issues? Just had the sense that the area (florida - lol) doesnt have much interest in regular season baseball

I agree with @southernflyer ...

The location of the stadium, will keep attendance down regardless of how nice it is...

@southernflyer

Wouldn't it be smarter to have it on the north side of Tampa?
 
I agree with @southernflyer ...

The location of the stadium, will keep attendance down regardless of how nice it is...

@southernflyer

Wouldn't it be smarter to have it on the north side of Tampa?
Yes, Ybor City was really the best geographical option. Just off the intersecting of I-275 from the north, I-4 east/west and FL-618 from the south that connects to I-75 from the north/south.

Ybor historically is a Cuban/Hispanic nations immigrant area, from the late 1800's until the Great Depression as the "cigar capital of the world". Ybor City central district is a landmark historic district with many Cuban influences. There are still cigar shops and manufacturing, Cigar City Brewing and the famous, beautiful Columbia restaurant farther east in the district. There are also a strip of bars unlike the old Flats that get a little rowdy and have a heavy police presence.

The stadium complex was to be built East 2nd/3rd a few blocks west/southwest of the main district (East 7th/8th). Roughly the distance from Progressive Field to E. 14th and Euclid. Locals protested it would ruin the historical atmosphere of the area. When Ybor stadium was first brought up about five years ago, the cost was around $900m all in for the area. The St. Pete new stadium complex w/ retail, hotels and affordable housing is now expected to be over $1.3b.
 
No. The new stadium will be in St. Pete as well. Pain for anyone on the other side of Tampa Bay (Tampa from the east, Sarasota/Bradenton from the south) through traffic and over the bridges. The difference for me is a 45 minute/hour drive to Ybor where the other stadium plan was for or 1 hour 30+ to Tropicana.
Should build the stadium on an artificial island in the middle of the bay. All fans get there via boat ferries or a gondola system.
 
Should build the stadium on an artificial island in the middle of the bay. All fans get there via boat ferries or a gondola system.

That would be kind of cool actually! I could see this in Japan for sure!
 
Should build the stadium on an artificial island in the middle of the bay. All fans get there via boat ferries or a gondola system.
Tampa (Hillsborough county) actually has proposed this month for an additional bridge to be built and a new ferry service from the Tampa side to the new ballpark ( in St. Pete/Pinellas county) to ease congestion.

The two counties have had a decades long pissing match over the original location and now the new one. St. Pete got the stadium, Tampa got the name on the uniform. Who gets the tax revenue, and who pays for it. Imagine if the Cuyahoga River was the dividing line between two counties. One county wanted the stadium built on their land across from the West Side Market near W. 25th in Ohio City. The other county wanted it built on their land near the Warehouse district.
 

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