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2024 Season | Series #11 | Angels @ Guardians | May 3-5, 2024

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A few thoughts..

1) The starters, not Vogt, are running the relievers into the ground.

2) If Kwan is out any length of time, we are in serious trouble...there's no sugar coating it.

3) I wouldn't have him leadoff, but I'd have Fry playing just about every day. He crushes LHP, and he is average vs RHP. I'd much rather see what we have in Fry first, before giving at bats to Rodriguez.

4) With Nails and Fry at 1B, we aren't exactly hurting there.

5) If not Cookie, who?

Curry has faced 98 batters in Columbus.
35 have gotten a hit, 10 have walked, 8 have homered. He's given up 3.43 HR/9 and his FIP is 8.21.

At the moment, we have NO depth in the rotation. We may have warm bodies, but no depth.

6) If Kwan has to go on the IL, it will be interesting to see who gets called up. The two names that everybody talks about are Manzardo and Rodriguez. But Schneemann has been so good at getting on base for so long that he makes some sense. The problem is that he hasn't played much in the outfield...and he isnt on the 40 man.

But his MiLB numbers look like those of another 27 yr old non prospect who got the call up in a desperate situation. Utility man Whit Merrifield was called up on May 18th 2016 to fill a black hole at 2B, and never looked back.

Few rebuttals ....
1) Yes, Cleveland relievers have top 5 innings in the league. Yet, some of the issue could also be how they are used ... like all the 1 innings for Gaddis when he could be going 2-3 (if stretched for that role). I thought this pen had a lot of potential to do multiple innings. And, with all the times relievers have to go up and down to warm-up (wear and tear and injury), there maybe less if they do 1 2-inning stint than 2 1-inning stints. Maybe Vogt takes that approach when Morgan and Hentges come back....

2) Losing a Kwan is a fact of life. I just pointed out again yesterday afternoon that our injuries over the past month won't save us from future injuries and that is the problem. Thus, hoping that injuries to relatively healthy KC/Det isn't the solution ... it is what already has been done - where we cannot call up a Martinez or Valera for Kwan. We can call up Man or Rod, but they aren't going into the lead-off slot which is our bigger need than OF.

3) There is a reason that Fry doesn't play everyday. It isn't just a manager that hates him. I am just waiting till pitchers get a full report as a 600+ BABip vs LHP is either All-Star level or not sustainable. If All-Star (or floor everyday regular), Vogt must then be an idiot for only playing him 3 times this past week (which is more than usual).

5) Curry really didn't have a ST ... do you really think he is that bad at AAA or is it that he was told to work on something that he wouldn't in the MLB? In his brief ST, he threw 10 innings and walked no one. In his 5 inning MLB this year, he walked 1. He walked 30 in 95 innings last year. But, now all of a sudden, he is wild (and giving up 8 HRs in AAA this year vs 12 all last season in MLB)?

Yes, they won't bring up Curry over Cookie because if they do before Williams and Cantillo come back, all they have is Oller and Dion for depth starters (with options)...

6) The key with who is called up (if Kwan goes on IL), is if Schneeman can go into the lead-off role (as you said a good walk rate -- .090 difference in OBP-BA). Right now, the best option you have for that role is a Laureano/Brennan combo (yack ...). Fry really isn't leadoff. Gimenez or Freeman could but you are messing with a lot of line-up changes (Fry can move to #2 hole). Schneeman has more innings in OF than Freeman, Arias and Rosario had. He has been working on it, nothing to worry about there for LF - will do better than Santana experiment. And, we do have a roster spot open with another coming in Avila with Hentges/Morgan sometime soon. This is the best shot for him to make our roster (it will say a lot what FO thinks of him -- is he doing better at AAA due to gaining ability or just his age - getting to that AAAA level player).
 
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Few rebuttals ....
1) Yes, Cleveland relievers have top 5 innings in the league. Yet, some of the issue could also be how they are used ... like all the 1 innings for Gaddis when he could be going 2-3 (if stretched for that role). I thought this pen had a lot of potential to do multiple innings. And, with all the times relievers have to go up and down to warm-up (wear and tear and injury), there maybe less if they do 1 2-inning stint than 2 1-inning stints. Maybe Vogt takes that approach when Morgan and Hentges come back....

2) Losing a Kwan is a fact of life. I just pointed out again yesterday afternoon that our injuries over the past month won't save us from future injuries and that is the problem. Thus, hoping that injuries to relatively healthy KC/Det isn't the solution ... it is what already has been done - where we cannot call up a Martinez or Valera for Kwan. We can call up Man or Rod, but they aren't going into the lead-off slot which is our bigger need than OF.

3) There is a reason that Fry doesn't play everyday. It isn't just a manager that hates him. I am just waiting till pitchers get a full report as a 600+ BABip vs LHP is either All-Star level or not sustainable. If All-Star (or floor everyday regular), Vogt must then be an idiot for only playing him 3 times this past week (which is more than usual).

5) Curry really didn't have a ST ... do you really think he is that bad at AAA or is it that he was told to work on something that he wouldn't in the MLB? In his brief ST, he threw 10 innings and walked no one. In his 5 inning MLB this year, he walked 1. He walked 30 in 95 innings last year. But, now all of a sudden, he is wild (and giving up 8 HRs in AAA this year vs 12 all last season in MLB)?

Yes, they won't bring up Curry over Cookie because if they do before Williams and Cantillo come back, all they have is Oller and Dion for depth starters (with options)...

6) The key with who is called up (if Kwan goes on IL), is if Schneeman can go into the lead-off role (as you said a good walk rate -- .090 difference in OBP-BA). Right now, the best option you have for that role is a Laureano/Brennan combo (yack ...). Fry really isn't leadoff. Gimenez or Freeman could but you are messing with a lot of line-up changes (Fry can move to #2 hole). Schneeman has more innings in OF than Freeman, Arias and Rosario had. He has been working on it, nothing to worry about there for LF - will do better than Santana experiment. And, we do have a roster spot open with another coming in Avila with Hentges/Morgan sometime soon. This is the best shot for him to make our roster (it will say a lot what FO thinks of him -- is he doing better at AAA due to gaining ability or just his age - getting to that AAAA level player).

We already should have a roster spot open since we DFA'D Beede...

We can easily add Manzardo or Schneeman IF Kwan is going to miss time. IF it's a short stint, we will likely see someone already on the 40 man roster aka like JRodriguez up...
 
We already should have a roster spot open since we DFA'D Beede...
"And, we do have a roster spot open with another coming in Avila with Hentges/Morgan sometime soon."

Rough morning (no cup of joe yet) with reading comprehension and Lee coming out of your mom's bedroom? (And admin -- this was just busting his chops .... good nature fun... not trying to beat him up )
 
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"And, we do have a roster spot open with another coming in Avila with Hentges/Morgan sometime soon."

Rough morning (no cup of joe yet) with reading comprehension and Lee coming out of your mom's bedroom? (And admin -- this was just busting his chops .... good nature fun... not trying to beat him up )

I'm at work, so I am half reading everything haha Plus if I drank coffee I would be in the hospital so I wouldn't even be able to respond... lol

Either way, we have an open roster spot at the moment, so adding someone (Aka Schneeman or Manzardo) wouldn't be hard to do plus they would still have options.

The only question once that happens, who becomes our long man?
 
I'm at work, so I am half reading everything haha Plus if I drank coffee I would be in the hospital so I wouldn't even be able to respond... lol

Either way, we have an open roster spot at the moment, so adding someone (Aka Schneeman or Manzardo) wouldn't be hard to do plus they would still have options.

The only question once that happens, who becomes our long man?

Do we really need a long-man once we get a few people back? As I said earlier, we can help with stress on pen by having people go 2+ innings from our ex-starters (versus multiple 1 innings). That could mean having Gaddis do a Hader role. Are we really going to option a Herrin or Smith now (like we were thinking earlier), when Williams comes back ... pushing Cookie to long-man role?

Back-end
Clase, Barlow, Hentges

Longer
Morgan, Gaddis, Herrin

Short
Smith, Sandlin
 
Florial leading off? Didn't see that coming. His OBP is .286 overall and .259 against RHP's and the Angels are starting a righty. My guess is that they need to give him regular at-bats in order to make some decisions and the Kwan injury allows them to do that.

Florial doesn't have a bad eye at the plate; his chase percentage is the fourth lowest on the team at 28%. Good thing because he's the worst player on the team at making contact on pitches out of the zone so he can't afford to chase, especially with two strikes.

According to Fangraphs the pitch he's had the most difficulty with by far is the fastball. That agrees with the eyeball test - in his last game he swung and misses at six fastballs and I think they were ALL in the zone.

I'll be watching to see how the Angels and Tigers pitch him, specifically, whether they pound the zone with high fastballs.
 
Perhaps Antonetti/Chernoff should call the Marlins. Like Cleveland, they developed pitchers. Like Cleveland, they hold on to their position prospects until they lose all value, and are forced to give them away. Unlike Cleveland, most of their position prospects are big, athletic types who can't make contact.

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The 'non concern' over Delauters sore foot was yet another FO fallacy. 2022...broken left foot. 2023..broken toe on left foot. 2024...broken left foot.

Next year, we will once again be gaga over Delauter, and once again, almost everybody will refuse to acknowledge his health track record.
¹Delauters foot = Espinos shoulder.

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Obviously, Fry BABIP vs lefties is unsustainable.

But his track record is so strong, that it shouldn't be ignored. His OPS's vs lefties the last three years....

.883
.813
.988

His OPS's the last three years...

.841
.779
.797

If he is definitely not an every day player, what does that make the other option as a RH bat that can play 1B and corner OF?

We won't know if Fry can play every day, until he plays every day.
 
Do we really need a long-man once we get a few people back? As I said earlier, we can help with stress on pen by having people go 2+ innings from our ex-starters (versus multiple 1 innings). That could mean having Gaddis do a Hader role. Are we really going to option a Herrin or Smith now (like we were thinking earlier), when Williams comes back ... pushing Cookie to long-man role?

Back-end
Clase, Barlow, Hentges

Longer
Morgan, Gaddis, Herrin

Short
Smith, Sandlin

Hmm...

Let's just say Morgan, Hentges and Williams are all back...

Rotation...
Bibee, Allen, TMac, Lively, Williams...

Then the bullpen...

Closer- Clase
Setup- Barlow, Gaddis, Hentges

We have 4 spots between Smith, Herrin, Sandlin, Morgan and Carrasco...

There will be one casualty there and it's likely Smith optioned or Carrasco DFA'D.... I think they will avoid cutting Carrasco, so that sends down Smith...

Which puts Carrasco as the long man/spot starter... Sandlin and Morgan both have shown they can go two innings... Herrin is early lefty out of the pen
 
I thought Floriea was a solid Defensive OF , seems like he DH more ?
 
If anything Smith and his 2.22 xFIP is going in higher leverage situations. Unless he goes bad he is going nowhere.
 
Nine pitch inning for Cookie to start.
 
First pitch single for Florial.
 
It'd be nice to see Jose breakout of his funk.
 
Jose Reddenbacher delivering it hot, buttered and salted.
 

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