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All these silly changes being made to "help the game" with the biggest issue being fucking ignored and never talked about. MLB will not be fixed by dancing around the real issue. As long as there are teams with $300M payrolls and teams with $68M payrolls, MLB is broken.
There's literally entire threads about this. :chuckle:. And yes, MLB and the PA are not addressing the big issue... But they can still do things to improve the game as it evolves.
 
I can see how some of these changes are controversial, I'd VETO one or two, but...

Does anybody NOT like the pitch clock?
 
I can see how some of these changes are controversial, I'd VETO one or two, but...

Does anybody NOT like the pitch clock?
I'm all in for that Criz. I also like the idea of speeding up the hitters time between pitches. There are things that can be addressed that were never part of the game before and those are 2 of those things.
 
I dont know how the changes will alter the game, although I have my expectations.

It used to be that the two leagues played very dissimilar games. The AL, dominated by the powerball of the Yankees, played for big innings...as in Earl Weavers three run home runs. The NL played speedball...put the ball in play and run like hell...moves runners over, bunt, steal. We watched that last year in Cleveland.

Part of the difference was because there were a lot more good, black baseball players in the NL with an emphasis on athleticism and speed. The illustration of the difference was the 1964 World Series, when the Cardinals, led by Lou Brock, Bill White, and Bob Gibson, beat the Yankees of Mantle, Maris, and Elston Howard.

That year, the Yanks hit 162 HRs, stole 54 bases, 68 sac bunts. The Cards hit 109 HRs, stole 73 bases, 94 sac bunts.

Totally different style of baseball.

How much towards the old NL style will the new rules sway today's game?

Because of the emphasis on power that has come to the game, analytics have discounted the value of bunts and stolen bases. They also discounted the value of getting on base, especially via high batting averages. And, maybe most importantly, owners were willing to pay more for power, even if it came with strike outs and poor defense. Why learn to play baseball, when playing slow pitch softball in a big league uniform paid more? Swing big or go home.

Those big swings also came with an increase in launch angles. It easier to pitch to an uppercut swing than to one that goes thru the zone on a more level plane. Couple this with the more advanced teaching of pitching today, with such a emphasis on increased velocity and spin, and we've come to this point of lowered scoring and longer games. But with the increase in velocity and spin rates has come a need for a longer recovery time between pitches...and to something I'm gonna watch closely.

The pitch clock is gonna speed up the game. But will it mean that, in particular, starting pitchers will have to pace themselves in order to get thru even five innings? Or will it mean more pitchers blow out their arms without as much recovery time between pitches?

In 2014, after several frustrating years, Cookie was put in the pen and told by Callaway to throw as hard as he could for as long as he could. Cookie carried that instruction into his starts when he first returned to the rotation. It worked spectacularly. From 2014-2018 Cookie was the fourth best SP in the AL with 21 fWAR...behind only Kluber, Sale, and Verlander.

Another thing I'm gonna watch closely is base stealing. How much will the new rules regarding stolen bases change the game, and will the number of stolen bases become instantly ridiculous?

Ricky Henderson was the greatest base stealer of all time. His success rate was 80.7%...even when the opposition KNEW he was gonna go almost every time, no matter what the situation.

Some success rates to consider:

JRam......80.6%
Straw......87%
Kwan......79.2%
Gimenez...90.7%
Team.......81.5%

This includes times when one of them was called out for bouncing on a base, which Henderson never had to deal with, and which may be eliminated by the larger bases. Our team success rate was higher than Henderson's.

The average success rate for stolen bases is about 70%, but if stolen bases become totally non competitive, that part of the game becomes a joke. For some players, a walk may become a triple almost at will.

While this may be good for the Guardians, it would be bad for the game.

And another...

A lot of lefthanded batters have tried to hit the ball over a shift. Jose is an example. But others who don't hit a lot of balls in the air have tried to hit the ball hard thru the shift. Bell and Naylor are examples. Will the elimination of shifts mean a lower emphasis on launch angles?
 
I dont know how the changes will alter the game, although I have my expectations.

It used to be that the two leagues played very dissimilar games. The AL, dominated by the powerball of the Yankees, played for big innings...as in Earl Weavers three run home runs. The NL played speedball...put the ball in play and run like hell...moves runners over, bunt, steal. We watched that last year in Cleveland.

Part of the difference was because there were a lot more good, black baseball players in the NL with an emphasis on athleticism and speed. The illustration of the difference was the 1964 World Series, when the Cardinals, led by Lou Brock, Bill White, and Bob Gibson, beat the Yankees of Mantle, Maris, and Elston Howard.

That year, the Yanks hit 162 HRs, stole 54 bases, 68 sac bunts. The Cards hit 109 HRs, stole 73 bases, 94 sac bunts.

Totally different style of baseball.

How much towards the old NL style will the new rules sway today's game?

Because of the emphasis on power that has come to the game, analytics have discounted the value of bunts and stolen bases. They also discounted the value of getting on base, especially via high batting averages. And, maybe most importantly, owners were willing to pay more for power, even if it came with strike outs and poor defense. Why learn to play baseball, when playing slow pitch softball in a big league uniform paid more? Swing big or go home.

Those big swings also came with an increase in launch angles. It easier to pitch to an uppercut swing than to one that goes thru the zone on a more level plane. Couple this with the more advanced teaching of pitching today, with such a emphasis on increased velocity and spin, and we've come to this point of lowered scoring and longer games. But with the increase in velocity and spin rates has come a need for a longer recovery time between pitches...and to something I'm gonna watch closely.

The pitch clock is gonna speed up the game. But will it mean that, in particular, starting pitchers will have to pace themselves in order to get thru even five innings? Or will it mean more pitchers blow out their arms without as much recovery time between pitches?

In 2014, after several frustrating years, Cookie was put in the pen and told by Callaway to throw as hard as he could for as long as he could. Cookie carried that instruction into his starts when he first returned to the rotation. It worked spectacularly. From 2014-2018 Cookie was the fourth best SP in the AL with 21 fWAR...behind only Kluber, Sale, and Verlander.

Another thing I'm gonna watch closely is base stealing. How much will the new rules regarding stolen bases change the game, and will the number of stolen bases become instantly ridiculous?

Ricky Henderson was the greatest base stealer of all time. His success rate was 80.7%...even when the opposition KNEW he was gonna go almost every time, no matter what the situation.

Some success rates to consider:

JRam......80.6%
Straw......87%
Kwan......79.2%
Gimenez...90.7%
Team.......81.5%

This includes times when one of them was called out for bouncing on a base, which Henderson never had to deal with, and which may be eliminated by the larger bases. Our team success rate was higher than Henderson's.

The average success rate for stolen bases is about 70%, but if stolen bases become totally non competitive, that part of the game becomes a joke. For some players, a walk may become a triple almost at will.

While this may be good for the Guardians, it would be bad for the game.

And another...

A lot of lefthanded batters have tried to hit the ball over a shift. Jose is an example. But others who don't hit a lot of balls in the air have tried to hit the ball hard thru the shift. Bell and Naylor are examples. Will the elimination of shifts mean a lower emphasis on launch angles?
Some good questions, we shall see.... It wasn't Callaway that got Carrasco on the path to success it was Kevin Cash.
 
The power is there and there's more coming......likely a lot more. We'll have a full season from OGon. You have to expect Josh Naylor to hit as many or more being healthy the entire offseason. His brother could go to the plate blindfolded and give this team more power and better offensive output in general than Hedges and Maile combined. Add in a healthy Zunino. Bell was signed. JRam is healthy. Brennan has developing power and a good bat. Arias has more power than most SS and should he get to it frequently has 25+ potential. Gimenez hit for plenty of power and is young enough that we could see more from him even if his overall numbers dip a bit. Valera and Rocchio could be ready this season and both have some power, especially Valera.

So you see, they haven't abandoned the idea of having power in the lineup. They just didn't abandon all other aspects of the game to get/have it.

The separator for Cleveland will be the young, upcoming pitching. That's what will likely set us apart......or not.
 
The power is there and there's more coming......likely a lot more. We'll have a full season from OGon. You have to expect Josh Naylor to hit as many or more being healthy the entire offseason. His brother could go to the plate blindfolded and give this team more power and better offensive output in general than Hedges and Maile combined. Add in a healthy Zunino. Bell was signed. JRam is healthy. Brennan has developing power and a good bat. Arias has more power than most SS and should he get to it frequently has 25+ potential. Gimenez hit for plenty of power and is young enough that we could see more from him even if his overall numbers dip a bit. Valera and Rocchio could be ready this season and both have some power, especially Valera.

So you see, they haven't abandoned the idea of having power in the lineup. They just didn't abandon all other aspects of the game to get/have it.

The separator for Cleveland will be the young, upcoming pitching. That's what will likely set us apart......or not.
We're going to call this "..an ever so slight exaggeration..."

Tito was on record claiming that he's seen Josh Naylor and that he looked very good.. There wasn't a tonnage limiting scale around.. so, no numbers were offered..

Josh Naylor can be a YUGE help to his little bro....YUUUUUUUUUGGGGGEEEEEEEEE !!
 
We're going to call this "..an ever so slight exaggeration..."

Tito was on record claiming that he's seen Josh Naylor and that he looked very good.. There wasn't a tonnage limiting scale around.. so, no numbers were offered..

Josh Naylor can be a YUGE help to his little bro....YUUUUUUUUUGGGGGEEEEEEEEE !!
Hedges as Cleveland's starting C provided them with a 42 wRC+. Maile gave them a 81 wRC+. Bo Naylor gave Akron a 151 wRC+ in over 200 AB and Columbus a 131 wRC+ in almost 300 AB. I don't think it's even an "ever so slight exaggeration" honestly, but it was said to extrapolate how bad Hedges and Maile were. Regardless, I'm excited to see what Bo can do as he's just another exciting, young Cleveland prospect.
 
Sam Dykstra at MLBPipeline.com had a listing of 11 prospects that are non-top ten for various clubs, but make up a rather interesting team... Here is the list:

C: Edgar Quero, Angels
1B: Deyvison De Los Santos, D-backs
2B: Connor Norby, Orioles
3B: Orelvis Martinez, Blue Jays
SS: Cole Young, Mariners
OF: Garrett Mitchell, Brewers
OF: Dustin Harris, Rangers
OF: Samuel Zavala, Padres
DH: Edouard Julien, Twins
RHP: Cade Horton, Cubs
LHP: Matthew Liberatore, Cardinals

Odd that six of these guys have been mentioned as trade targets by this forum.. This is the time to get guys like this.. before their value rises to exhorbitantly expensive..
 
Dodgers taking a chance on Alex Reyes, formerly of the St Louis Cardinals..


Reyes just hasn't been able to stay on the field where his considerable talent can be displayed..

Chafin signed with the DBax..

Those are two big time RP's that could have bolstered the predetermined belief the Guardians bullpen was somehow lacking in depth..
 
Dodgers taking a chance on Alex Reyes, formerly of the St Louis Cardinals..


Reyes just hasn't been able to stay on the field where his considerable talent can be displayed..

Chafin signed with the DBax..

Those are two big time RP's that could have bolstered the predetermined belief the Guardians bullpen was somehow lacking in depth..

I was hoping we would bring Chafin back home...
 

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