Andraez “Greedy” Williams: Round 2, Pick 46

[natedagg]

I don't think we ever see Bitonio play tackle.

You have one of the best guards in the game. Why play him out of position where he's no longer an elite asset? That just seems dumb.

He played it well when he tried it, and I think he could be elite there. I also think there’s more to the story than the public knows: I think he figured out that if he was asked to play tackle, then he was underpaid.

But ok. Time will tell. You are probably right. We shall see.

 

[dark2332]

He played it well when he tried it, and I think he could be elite there. I also think there’s more to the story than the public knows: I think he figured out that if he was asked to play tackle, then he was underpaid.

But ok. Time will tell. You are probably right. We shall see.

If he was ever going to switch to tackle, it would've been last year. It's out of the cards.

However, if Forbes really looks good as an NFL guard, I could see Corbett sliding into center in 2020. Thus, replacing Tretter is not an incorrect statement.

 

[natedagg]

If he was ever going to switch to tackle, it would've been last year. It's out of the cards.

However, if Forbes really looks good as an NFL guard, I could see Corbett sliding into center in 2020. Thus, replacing Tretter is not an incorrect statement.

That’s a great idea. I was coming from a place if not spending too much on the interior. Your idea is better, but these guys have to play and play well.

Damn we need a left tackle. I guess we will see how this year goes. So many went in r1 that the cupboard was bare, at least compared to Greedy.

 

[AZ_]

He played it well when he tried it, and I think he could be elite there. I also think there’s more to the story than the public knows: I think he figured out that if he was asked to play tackle, then he was underpaid.

But ok. Time will tell. You are probably right. We shall see.

When did he play well there?

Bitonio himself said he didn't think he was cut out for it. Bob Wylie didn't seem too keen on it, the only one I remember pushing for it was Hue Jackson.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

When did he play well there?

Bitonio himself said he didn't think he was cut out for it. Bob Wylie didn't seem too keen on it, the only one I remember pushing for it was Hue Jackson.

I never saw Bitonio play well at tackle.

With his build, short arms, and athletic profile, I think it's downright impossible for him to ever be "elite" at tackle, let alone very good.

I was just gonna let the argument drop though.

 

[natedagg]

When did he play well there?

Bitonio himself said he didn't think he was cut out for it. Bob Wylie didn't seem too keen on it, the only one I remember pushing for it was Hue Jackson.

I thought he played there in the early part of the season and the feedback was he was very good. Maybe it was the preseason tho.

 

[natedagg]

I never saw Bitonio play well at tackle.

With his build, short arms, and athletic profile, I think it's downright impossible for him to ever be "elite" at tackle, let alone very good.

I was just gonna let the argument drop though.

Yeah there isn’t much to argue. Clearly I am mistaken and something isn’t adding up.

That’s why you guys get paid the big bucks. That’s why I come here to get the real scoop and what’s best. Hue and Greggggg should have signed up for RCF.

 

[Douglar]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-reviewing-this-years-best-value-picks#slide6

Separating the "best" player at a scheme-dependent position like cornerback can be tricky. Instead, it makes more sense to pin prospects as the "best" at different styles or schemes rather than evaluate them in a vacuum. Cover 2, Cover 4, press-man and slot cornerbacks all have different responsibilities, for example.

Still, the league is trending toward man coverage. Top-end man coverage has always come at a premium, but with offenses getting better at blurring reads for zone and zone-match defenses, straight-up man-to-man is as valuable as ever. Former LSU Tiger Greedy Williams is this year's best man-coverage cornerback.

Williams is physical yet gracious. He has the length and press savvy to get in a receiver's face and bother them but possesses the speed and fluidity to match up with the NFL's smoothest route-runners. The nuance in his game is often impressive, especially in the way he can lock on to a wide receiver's hips while in phase down the field and locate the ball on the fly. He defended 19 passes, intercepting eight of them, over the past two seasons.

The best aspect of this pick is that, even as the top cornerback in the class, he does not even need to be the best corner on the Cleveland Browns. Denzel Ward was the fourth overall selection last year and balled as a rookie, racking up three interceptions, 11 passes defended and five tackles for loss in just 13 games.

A man-coverage duo of Ward and Williams spells disaster for the rest of the AFC.​

 

[Jordan]

View: https://twitter.com/BrianSpoon/status/1122583060334153729

 

[Douglar]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/04/29/nfl-draft-five-high-risk-picks-plus-five-steals/

Five steals

Round 2, 46th overall pick: Greedy Williams, CB, Cleveland Browns

With Williams joining second-year pro Denzel Ward, the Browns have the makings of one of the best man-to-man coverage cornerback duos in the NFL. In 2017, Williams, who played his college ball at LSU, allowed only 38.1 percent of his targets to be completed. Last year he was even better, allowing just 36.5 percent of targets to be completed.

Those are elite coverage numbers while playing in college football’s most difficult conference, the SEC. At a shade under 6-foot-2 and with a 4.37-second 40-yard dash, Williams’ lockdown ability has a very good shot at translating to the pro level.​

 

[Lee]

Two months ago I would have said for sure that Landry was gonna be gone after this season.

Now? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

To go further on the saving money train, the Browns could potentially replace Tretter (7.25M) and Robinson (7M) with draft picks and save another 10-12M if they absolutely had to.

We drafted a bunch of corners and linebakcers, the writing is on the wall.

We have a few seasons to cap issues because we are going to most likely have a no cap year and then a new CBA in 2 years,

But Schobert probably doesn't get a big contract with Browns, but Kirksey is 10 mill with only 2.4 of dead space and Carrie is 8.1 with only 1.8 in cap space. All 3 have replacements currently on roster, that will save 14 mill net plus the 2 mill we were paying shobert so 16 million right there.

Both Robinson and Tretter are free agents too, so one could sign for less, plus Duke and his 5 million will be gone.

 

[Randolphkeys]

I don't think we ever see Bitonio play tackle.

You have one of the best guards in the game. Why play him out of position where he's no longer an elite asset? That just seems dumb.

I've always agreed with this statement. What I could see is that the front office is intrigued by the ceiling on Dez Harrison and want to give him at least one more year to show what he can do.

Essentially, the left tackle situation goes unchanged from last year:

Plan A: Robinson's job to lose
Plan B: Harrison is the young player who might make the jump
Plan C: Worst comes to worst, Hubbard has played on the left side in Pittsburgh. You slide him to the other side and Lamm is a decent backup right tackle.

 

[Mr. Orange]

I've always agreed with this statement. What I could see is that the front office is intrigued by the ceiling on Dez Harrison and want to give him at least one more year to show what he can do.

Essentially, the left tackle situation goes unchanged from last year:

Plan A: Robinson's job to lose
Plan B: Harrison is the young player who might make the jump
Plan C: Worst comes to worst, Hubbard has played on the left side in Pittsburgh. You slide him to the other side and Lamm is a decent backup right tackle.

How do you know so much about the Browns org while living in SF?

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I've always agreed with this statement. What I could see is that the front office is intrigued by the ceiling on Dez Harrison and want to give him at least one more year to show what he can do.

Essentially, the left tackle situation goes unchanged from last year:

Plan A: Robinson's job to lose
Plan B: Harrison is the young player who might make the jump
Plan C: Worst comes to worst, Hubbard has played on the left side in Pittsburgh. You slide him to the other side and Lamm is a decent backup right tackle.

Your football knowledge is impressive Keys.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

I've always agreed with this statement. What I could see is that the front office is intrigued by the ceiling on Dez Harrison and want to give him at least one more year to show what he can do.

Essentially, the left tackle situation goes unchanged from last year:

Plan A: Robinson's job to lose
Plan B: Harrison is the young player who might make the jump
Plan C: Worst comes to worst, Hubbard has played on the left side in Pittsburgh. You slide him to the other side and Lamm is a decent backup right tackle.

I love Harrison's natural athleticism and fluidity. He has all the makings of a phenomenal pass blocking LT.

His obvious, glaring hole is his strength. He could not handle a bull rush. For him, if he can get stronger while keeping his athleticism, he's a diamond in the rough. If he can't get strong enough to play, he's another lottery ticket that missed.