Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

[CBBI]

 

[MrX]

Not being prepared this year is as much on the Coach as the QB but I still believe in Baker. As unbearable this season was Baker statistically improve in the second half. Last 8 games 13 TD to 6 int and a QB rating of 86 and that's factoring in 38.9 vs CIN.

Being sacked left and right in the early part of the season and unfortunate luck with tip balls for interceptions and the enormous pressure OBJ brought was more then the second year QB was ready for.

We have had enough QB's I'm tired of seeing new faces.

 

[spydy13]

I know we haven’t seen the progress this year that we hoped, but this is a good reminder of the sad shit we’ve been dealing with for the past 20 years.

Baker Mayfield set to become 1st Browns QB in 18 years to start all 16 games, vows to be improved for the next 16

No one’s done it since Tim Couch in 2001, but he knows there’s plenty of room for improvement

www.clevelandbrowns.com

 

[Kbiz]

Not ready to give up on Bake like some of y'all although I must see improvement next year. Hopefully we surround him with the right staff to aid in his growth.

Still my QB.

 

[AZ_]

Seems like every argument these days has to be prefaced as “us vs them” with regards to a mythical group of people who want to “give up” on Baker.

Who are these folks?

 

[bob2the2nd]

Seems like every argument these days has to be prefaced as “us vs them” with regards to a mythical group of people who want to “give up” on Baker.

Who are these folks?

Not you.

 

[Kbiz]

Seems like every argument these days has to be prefaced as “us vs them” with regards to a mythical group of people who want to “give up” on Baker.

Who are these folks?

Look through the last 10+ pages of this thread. They’re real, whether they use the phrase “give up” or not.

 

[Sebastian]

The thing about Baker is that if he simply played as well as he did his rookie year, he'd be a pretty good QB in the league.

Not a Brady or Mahomes, but coupled with the weapons on offense, and a good D, the Browns would go places.

So, the job is to understand what happened with him, and how he was game-planned by the enemy, and at the very least get him back to where he was.

Maybe he has to listen to Yoda and unlearn what he had learned under the Kitchens regime.

 

[prf100]

The thing about Baker is that if he simply played as well as he did his rookie year, he'd be a pretty good QB in the league.

Not a Brady or Mahomes, but coupled with the weapons on offense, and a good D, the Browns would go places.

So, the job is to understand what happened with him, and how he was game-planned by the enemy, and at the very least get him back to where he was.

Maybe he has to listen to Yoda and unlearn what he had learned under the Kitchens regime.

Baker repeating his rookie year performance is a lot to ask. He broke the rookie record for passing TDs in a season. It was fair to expect given the weapons added, but I’m not surprised it didn’t happen.

What did surprise me was how little Freddie protecting Baker through play calling. Freddie should have treated Baker like a 2nd year QB, which he did some of midway through the season, but then went away from in the final 5 games.

Run the ball. Don’t set up in shotgun all effing day. Don’t run empty sets on early down and distance. DONT BLOCK EDGE RUSHERS WITH TIGHT ENDS.

Baker played his part in regression too. But strategy employed by kitchen’s offense was baffling given we had a 2nd year QB at the helm.

 

[Douglar]

Baker might have been able to repeat his rookie year success if the team tried repeat what worked last year. Use the running game. Fast throws after play action. Extra back for blocking. Kitchen's play calling did Baker no favors this year. I can't believe how much they got away from what worked. I cringed every time I saw those those empty backfield sets. They just didn't have the offensive line to do that. Seemed like Freddie was picking plays at random sometimes.

Mayfield also looked like he was just winging it way too often. I don't know if it was because of unexpected play calling or poor game day prep or receivers that broke off plays or maybe just something as simple as a line just couldn't do what it was asked to do, but it was a mess. Next year, we need a QB coach who has Mayfield watching the game prep film sessions while also finding a way to keep him in the weight room instead of the waffle house ...

 

[The Oi]

I want to give up on Baker.

 

[MGMT]

Yeah the diviseness thing is strange.

Personally I wouldn’t consider myself done with him. He needs a staff that’s agreeable in terms of what they’re trying to accomplish, will instill discipline and accountability in Baker and most importantly be creative with utilizing his strengths and what’s proven effective for the overall offense.

I think his performance thus far and the circumstances has led me to believe there needs to be another stab at it.

Finally, I don’t really think we are prepared or have the means to upgrade this particular offseason or draft but that’s just me.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

He got inordinate amounts of bad coaching.

Not saying we should throw everything he did away, but when you scrap your game plan and run an entirely different plan with no prep, it's gotta be hard for a young QB.

 

[prf100]

I want to give up on Baker.

You wish you knew how to quit Baker.

 

[buzzdog]

To pick a GM/HC combo who don't have a clear cut plan on how they will make the current talent on the roster succeed would be an abject failure of the selection process. There seems to be a consensus opinion that the talent is there on the roster, it just needs to be coached and utilized properly. To start giving up on pieces like Mayfield at this stage of the game would be a mind boggling and stupendously stupid choice to make.