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Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

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I finally figured who Baker reminds me....he reminds me if Mac Miller was a QB, lol
 
Baker is fine. The offense is designed to score when he does things he can do.. I expect him to finish as the QB of a top five offense in the NFL..

Defensively we have had some great individual plays by Garret and a few others, but the defensive scheme has a lot of holes in it. To obsess on a single miss is crazy, when compared to the multiple defensive lapses.. Baker was not on the field when Dak was carving up the secondary..
 
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I'm hoping that game managing for our rushing attack this year will let Baker get his confidence back so that he can sling it well when we need him to in the future. Last season really did a number on him.
 
I really don't see where this "game manager" stuff is coming from.

He's still making aggressive throws. He's still pushing the ball downfield.

We're just not putting him in situations where he's likely to fail. We don't need (or want) him to be running around like a madman a la Mahomes or old-school Rodgers. We should be putting Baker in positions to be successful, which we are.

Game managers take check-downs at the expense of plays that help you win. Baker isn't doing that this year.

If you want to say he's throwing less, and our offense can win without him throwing it 50 times, then you're correct. But if you call him "just a game manager" then I disagree. He's just a piece in our offense, instead of being asked to have the entire weight of a franchise on his back.
 
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Love the analysis. I prefer video to still images.

There's a lot being left on the table right now. The high score of the Cowboys game doesn't mean our offense is perfect. We haven't even come close to our final form.

Baker can get better.

The offensive line can get better.

Stefanski and Van Pelt can get better.

We just have to put in the constant work to improve and get better.
 
Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
Love the analysis. I prefer video to still images.

There's a lot being left on the table right now. The high score of the Cowboys game doesn't mean our offense is perfect. We haven't even come close to our final form.

Baker can get better.

The offensive line can get better.

Stefanski and Van Pelt can get better.

We just have to put in the constant work to improve and get better.
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One thing I'm seeing with all these film breakdowns is that OBJ gets open a lot. It's almost criminal how much he's open but doesn't get an accurate ball if even at all. I think whenever we saw Baker try to force-feed him last year is because they KNEW OBJ was open a lot, and Baker made pre-determined attempts to get the ball to him which led to turnovers. Baker's struggles with diagnosing a defense and recognizing leverage directly after a snap is worrying, and I only hope it's something he can learn and improve on rather than his height being the limiting factor.
 
I just need to see more from Mayfield after the snap.

If his very clearly defined first read is open and there's little pressure, he's perfectly fine. But that applies to almost every QB in the league too.

But every variable added - if OL gives up pressure or if Baker believes there's going to be pressure, if the coverage on his initial read is good, if the defense shows a zone or man look when Baker's expecting the opposite - and Mayfield just doesn't handle it all that well.

The pieces around Baker - RBs, OL, TEs, WRs, play caller, scheme - are all so good that the Browns can beat teams if Mayfield simply doesn't give the ball away, but ultimately he needs to show more than that if the Browns are going to graduate from nice story to legitimate contender.

To put it another way, I firmly believe if you replaced Mayfield with a more complete QB, this would be the best offense in the NFL by a wide margin. Everything other position group plus the scheme and the guy calling the plays are all so legit.
 
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I’ve seen a lot of complaining about baker and such and it’s warranted but you also gotta remember this offense takes time for a QB to learn. Look at cousins, jimmy G even Rodgers last year. It really took them a while to fully grasp this offense. Add in the fact there was no offseason and barely much training camp, no preseason etc. the key thing to watch is game by game, is he getting better, is he grasping this offense more each game. He’s going to miss some reads, every qb does. I truly believe by week 8-9-10 we will really start seeing the baker of old the more games he gets under this offense
 
I’m not gonna criticize Baker today, because given how stifling the Colts run D was we very clearly needed what he was able to give us in order to win this game.

Also shows how important Teller is to our O-Line. Hubbard did an admirable effort, but Baker was attacked and pressured far more in that second half.
 
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