Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

[bob2the2nd]

Go wider lens then if you take issue with with a specific point in time.

How would you explain the difference in performance of these three players. Aren't these enormous data sets looking at their careers?

Aaron Rodgers

Career QB rating:103.9

Leading: 107.5
Tied / Trailing: 101.2
Diff: -6.3

Drew Brees

Career QB rating: 98.7

Leading: 107.1
Tied / Trailing: 94.1
Diff: -13.0

Tom Brady

Career QB rating: 97.5

Leading: 100.6
Tied / Trailing: 94.8
Diff: -5.8

Set aside clutch or even playoffs and just look at a broader situation. So seeing something like this doesn't lead you to believe that Rodgers or Brady was more capable of playing to their potential, regardless of game situation? Like is it at all a skill attributed to a player?

You are looking at your numbers wrong. This shows that in games the QB plays well his team is generally winning. In games he isn't playing well his team isn't winning. That's not news worthy. The only slightly strange thing is that when drew Brees wasn't good he was Really not good. However the other two basically show across a career numbers don't really change that much regardless of if their team is winning or losing

 

[bs80]

You are looking at your numbers wrong. This shows that in games the QB plays well his team is generally winning. In games he isn't playing well his team isn't winning. That's not news worthy. The only slightly strange thing is that when drew Brees wasn't good he was Really not good. However the other two basically show across a career numbers don't really change that much regardless of if their team is winning or losing

Actually, even the splits for Brees aren't that bad. In 2020, on average, passer ratings when trailing were almost 30 points lower than ratings when leasing. Even for Brees, his rating while trailing takes much less of a hit than the average NFL QB.

I think the split is mostly a function of being in obvious passing situations when trailing and being defended accordingly.

 

[Sebastian]

Another problem is — at what point do players get too big and fast? I would love to see the stats on injury numbers in the last 10 years. Seems like guys are dropping like flys every game.

At some point they are going to have to make a size limit and i am not talking about cocks! The BIGGER the better!

@The Oi knows what i am talking about!

Cum get sum!

Nick Foles is purported to have a 10 inch dick.

 

[pr26]

Nick Foles is purported to have a 10 inch dick.

I’d put money on Dak Prescott leading the league in QBDR. Baker? Probably middle of the pack. Daniel Jones probably towards the bottom?

It’s been a long work week guys.

 

[WellYouNeednt]

I’d put money on Dak Prescott leading the league in QBDR. Baker? Probably middle of the pack. Daniel Jones probably towards the bottom?

It’s been a long work week guys.

When i think of Baker — i think short, but a lot of girth.

ETA: This conversation is relevant to the topic/thread. I mean — we are talking about his contract “extension”.

 

[bs80]

Nick Foles is purported to have a 10 inch dick.

LMAO, they don't call him Big Dick Nick and Footlong Foles for nothin...

 

[Triplethreat]

Thread continues to get worse and I didn't even think that was possible.

 

[shoes22]

This thread in a nutshell:

 

[Surge]

I know right. Thread has me loving, hating, and not caring about our QB all at once.

What a time to be alive.

 

[Sebastian]

LMAO, they don't call him Big Dick Nick and Footlong Foles for nothin...

 

[CBBI]

***cool story Mayfield's QB Rating this year and last is almost identical to Tom Brady's career QB rating. 97 versus 97.5

The NFL literally changed several rules to make the game remarkably more favorable towards passing close to the middle of Tom Brady's now 22-year career.

Now of course you knew this and cited this completely out of context nonsensical stat anyway, but you do you baby boy.

The league average passer rating in 2004 (when Brady won his third ring) was 82.8. The league average passer rating in 2021 is 95.8. Nice try though.

 

[buzzdog]

There's a balance to strike here. When OBJ is consistently getting open and Baker passes on those opportunities and instead go for short yard passes that end up being ineffectual - there's a clear problem.

No one wants Baker to force the ball to OBJ when it's not there, but if Baker played with some anticipation then maybe OBJ wouldn't look invisible out there?

OBJ is playing his role, it's up to Baker to stand and deliver.

We have people here insisting that Odell is getting wide open on damn near every play and Baker is inexplicably missing him. In the Odell thread there was a decent all-22 breakdown of EVERY play that could have involved Odell. What I saw and what the commentator also saw was that on the VAST majority of the plays, Baker made the exact proper decision. There was only one clear time, and one other marginal time, where he should have thrown Odell's direction but didn't.

So I have to call bullshit on some of what is being said here.

 

[Lee]

Go wider lens then if you take issue with with a specific point in time.

How would you explain the difference in performance of these three players. Aren't these enormous data sets looking at their careers?

Aaron Rodgers

Career QB rating:103.9

Leading: 107.5
Tied / Trailing: 101.2
Diff: -6.3

Drew Brees

Career QB rating: 98.7

Leading: 107.1
Tied / Trailing: 94.1
Diff: -13.0

Tom Brady

Career QB rating: 97.5

Leading: 100.6
Tied / Trailing: 94.8
Diff: -5.8

Set aside clutch or even playoffs and just look at a broader situation. So seeing something like this doesn't lead you to believe that Rodgers or Brady was more capable of playing to their potential, regardless of game situation? Like is it at all a skill attributed to a player?

where is Baker on this?

 

[Lee]

LMAO, they don't call him Big Dick Nick and Footlong Foles for nothin...

In Nick's case its like calling a fat guy tiny, but dont ask how i know.

 

[DJTJ]

Go wider lens then if you take issue with with a specific point in time.

How would you explain the difference in performance of these three players. Aren't these enormous data sets looking at their careers?

Aaron Rodgers

Career QB rating:103.9

Leading: 107.5
Tied / Trailing: 101.2
Diff: -6.3

Drew Brees

Career QB rating: 98.7

Leading: 107.1
Tied / Trailing: 94.1
Diff: -13.0

Tom Brady

Career QB rating: 97.5

Leading: 100.6
Tied / Trailing: 94.8
Diff: -5.8

Set aside clutch or even playoffs and just look at a broader situation. So seeing something like this doesn't lead you to believe that Rodgers or Brady was more capable of playing to their potential, regardless of game situation? Like is it at all a skill attributed to a player?

Cant this also easily be explained though?

You’d expect a player with a higher leading vs tied because the throws that they’re making are, likely, in more advantageous scenarios?

And you’d also expect the QBs career rating to be higher than their trailing/tied if they were on a winning team, because they’d spend more time in the same advantageous scenarios?

You could probably also see data where QBs on awful teams have terrific trailing/tied ratings because they’re rarely tied and frequently throwing against shell coverage.