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Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

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I'mWithDan said:
Yeah, watching that again........it just has to be that to me.

Baker wasn't super sharp yesterday........but that is not just a bad miss, it is egregiously bad.

Not a miss in the sense I think it is 100% on Baker.......just that when the mesh point on the throw and route is that far off, it has to be miscommunication to me.

It honestly is thrown 3 yards left of where Landry is expecting it.......and it was in a relatively clean pocket, with a clean throwing lane. It would be incredibly weird if Baker just flat out made that bad of a throw but maybe they will talk about it at some point in post game stuff.
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The OBR film guy thinks it’s this route they run with Jarvis that’s essentially a double move, but in the double move the route comes back instead of up.

It looked a lot more like the route that Odell ran to step on the Vikings throat. And Baker read the go out of the break.
 
Another thing I don't understand with Baker especially after his post game comments about being too conservative is that Baker does a horrible job protecting himself. You'd think a guy who is a former baseball player playing QB would be better at knowing when to slide and get down but nope.

A few plays before he got knocked out of the game baker was scrambling and he dove head first and landed right on his bad shoulder. Just a dumb ass decision for him to make in that spot but hey he's tough right?

It was a dumb decision. He needs to be better at giving himself up on sacks and scrambles but he has to keep up the farce about being a tough guy because he's too far down that path to go back now. You hate to see it.
 
This looks like Baker made the misread based on where the defense was and where the open spot was (that Landry went to) but we won't know the answer to this question.
 
Let's talk about how Baker is diving head first on his bad shoulder in week 14. Or how he doesn't know how to give himself up on sacks.

This is a guy who knows that he's hurt an knows how important his availability is yet he is still going out there making bad decisions with his body.
 
I wonder what the "other offensive players have issues with the play-calling" part is about. Doesn't sound good.
 
Los216 said:
Another thing I don't understand with Baker especially after his post game comments about being too conservative is that Baker does a horrible job protecting himself. You'd think a guy who is a former baseball player playing QB would be better at knowing when to slide and get down but nope.

A few plays before he got knocked out of the game baker was scrambling and he dove head first and landed right on his bad shoulder. Just a dumb ass decision for him to make in that spot but hey he's tough right?

It was a dumb decision. He needs to be better at giving himself up on sacks and scrambles but he has to keep up the farce about being a tough guy because he's too far down that path to go back now. You hate to see it.
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Los216 said:
Let's talk about how Baker is diving head first on his bad shoulder in week 14. Or how he doesn't know how to give himself up on sacks.

This is a guy who knows that he's hurt an knows how important his availability is yet he is still going out there making bad decisions with his body.
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You basically posted the same thing twice within 20 minutes of each other. Take a moment to breathe.
 
I'mWithDan said:
If I'm guessing.........Higgins.

He's tight with Baker, he's been generally MIA on the season and I'm sure he's good for a play calling quote. :chuckle:
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Every coach sees Higgins the same way, and my guess is that they ask him to do things like special teams and he bitches about it.
 
For what it's worth I don't think Baker was terrible yesterday and I don’t think he was the sole reason a potential blowout turned into a soul-deadening close shave. A few plays he'd like to have back but I can see where his frustration with the second-half philosophy came from. When a team is coming back like the Ravens were in the fourth there's nothing more back-breaking for them than giving up chunk passing plays when they were selling everything to stop the Browns trying to run out clock. Those plays were not called and running on early downs was simply not working, even with elite guards and a ProBowl RB.

Bottom line is that yesterday was a must-win. That was accomplished and it was undoubtedly a step forward on what we saw prior to the bye-week.

Four more games with those against AFC opponents at least landing firmly in the 'essential' category. I'd love to say I was optimistic about them but I think all four games will be very tough for varying reasons. Any early season faith in Chase McLaughlin has evaporated.

'm encouraged that the defense is establishing an identity and finally showing glimpses of what we all hoped it could be. Running the football should be easier in the remaining games. That’s got to help.

If Mayfield could play at the level he showed in the first half more consistently across all four games we have a realistic shot at making the playoffs. That’s obviously a big If, but I’m not going to castigate him for running head first to keep the chains moving at times.
 
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Los216 said:
Baker's own wife has used his injuries as an excuse but now it's a problem with the teams messaging with his injuries? Isn't this the same dude that told us that he is the one who decides on if he plays or not? Now he doesn't like the team messaging?
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I mean its been called out here several times its obvious the team is publicly lying about his injuries, health and performances.
 
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