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i would think that simmons and sarunas on the court would be a well balanced combo, as would snow and luke. Ok, i am pretty much assuming luke will be dy no mite on the offense and struggle like a typical rookie on d, which is a big assumption. And neither sarunas or simmons are currently on our roster, BUT they aren't exactly unrealistic, and we could get deeper, as mentioned. And since i don't post often, let me get this in: don't trade gooden! Bring him off the bench if we get SAR, or start him. A front court with Z, sar, gooden, and AV (who i met in barcelona) would be awesome. and gooden would be great off of the bench, cuz IMO, his real problem is that he doesn't have the confidence to outplay KG or duncan, but when he knows he should dominate his opposition, then he plays his game and plays it well. And yes, after being traded so many times in so few years, i think he would be OK with being a backup that gets good minutes if we get SAR (and then we could rest z more, and even with bron and z out, we would have an offense)...

ok i ramble, so what?
 
If we can't land Redd or Larry Hughes, Bobby Simmons is definitely a good option to go after. He's got long arms which is great for defense, plus he's 6'6-6'7, and can hit the 3, plus slash, mid-range.

Can someone say a poor man's Scottie Pippen? Playing alongside LeBron James would probably turn him into Scottie Pippen
 
natedagg said:
i would think that simmons and sarunas on the court would be a well balanced combo, as would snow and luke. Ok, i am pretty much assuming luke will be dy no mite on the offense and struggle like a typical rookie on d, which is a big assumption. And neither sarunas or simmons are currently on our roster, BUT they aren't exactly unrealistic, and we could get deeper, as mentioned. And since i don't post often, let me get this in: don't trade gooden! Bring him off the bench if we get SAR, or start him. A front court with Z, sar, gooden, and AV (who i met in barcelona) would be awesome. and gooden would be great off of the bench, cuz IMO, his real problem is that he doesn't have the confidence to outplay KG or duncan, but when he knows he should dominate his opposition, then he plays his game and plays it well. And yes, after being traded so many times in so few years, i think he would be OK with being a backup that gets good minutes if we get SAR (and then we could rest z more, and even with bron and z out, we would have an offense)...

ok i ramble, so what?

"DY NO MITE" ? ;) screw it, it's too late..........
 
Show Simmons the Money
By Bill Simmons
Page 2

Editor's note: This article appears in the July 18 issue of ESPN The Magazine.

You've heard of the Players Club, Club Med, the Mile-High Club. I just became a charter member of the Cut-the-Check Club: dine with a soon-to-be-rich NBA star hours before free agency begins, and you're in. Extra points if he's about to 15-tuple his salary. If he deserves every cent that's coming, even better.

Why Cut-the-Check? Because that's what Bobby Simmons jokingly kept saying to me. Simmons is the likable Clipper who spent four seasons waiting for a door to open, then stormed through like a SWAT leader when it finally did. One Most Improved Player award later, we were sitting at the Cheesecake Factory in West Hollywood. In a few hours, lots of NBA teams would start to court him, many of them the same ones that had shunned him three years earlier.

Bobby Simmons is all smiles, now that he's about to get paid.
What was the worst part of playing in the NBDL?

"Everything," Simmons said. "Goin' from the NBA to there -- it was like going from a Benz to a pickup. I didn't belong there."

He shook his head in disgust, but Bobby never stays unhappy for more than two seconds.

"You know who else was tearing it up?" he asked, brightening. "Mikki Moore! We were the two best guys in the league. At the time, I was like, 'Who the hell is Mikki Moore?'"

Moore was a teammate of Simmons last year in Los Angeles.

He was laughing again. Simmons' trademark shot is a 20-footer in front of the opposing bench, [what more could we ask for?] followed by his turning and smiling at the players on his way back up the court. ("Guys always yell stuff when you shoot.") I attended 30 Clippers games, and not once did I see him scream at a ref. He's the guy everyone loves to play with, the guy who doesn't care about stats, the guy who does "All the Little Things." You win with guys like this. That's why -- well, other than his fantastic last name -- he was my favorite player on the team.

"I learned at a young age," Simmons says, "if somebody has something you don't have, you just have to work twice as hard to get it."

After a rough childhood on the South Side of Chicago, a Jesus Shuttlesworth-like run at Simeon High and a productive career at DePaul, Simmons received the dreaded "tweener" tag before the 2001 draft: too small to play down low, too slow for small forward.

"Meanwhile, I'm killing everybody in the workouts," he recalled. "I killed Shane Battier. I killed Brian Scalabrine. Didn't matter. I went 42."

Landing with the Wiz, Simmons impressed Michael Jordan in MJ's supersecret Chicago summer games. But Doug Collins never gave him a consistent chance, and even kept the immortal Ratko Varda instead of Simmons before the 2002-03 season (hence, the NBDL trip). When MJ was pushed out of Washington, so was everyone associated with him, including his favorite protégé -- and Bobby was back to square one.

But as he will point out, "I've seen my family struggle my entire life. It can't get worse than that."

The Clips signed Simmons as a defensive stopper in 2003, and then he caught a break when they traded for Kerry Kittles and his bum knee last summer. When Kittles did his annual DL stint, Simmons had a starting job and a coach, Mike Dunleavy, who believed in him. He started making jumpers and Clips fans started bringing "WE LOVE BOBBY" signs to games. Just like that, he was worth $45-50 million.

Now he might be leaving Cali. He loved the guys on last year's team, thinks they're headed somewhere, thinks Shaun Livingston can be special. And he loves the fans. He absolutely doesn't want to move on. But he's not taking a discount to stay, either. Not after making $2.1 million total over the past four years. If the notoriously cheap Clippers lowball him -- which seems inevitable -- he'll look for a winner with deep pockets.

"Cut the check!" he giggled again.

I paid ours and we walked outside. The sun was shining -- another beautiful day in California. Bobby was heading home to wait by the phone. His whole life was about to change. Every drop of sweat was about to pay off.

"You sure you want to leave this?" I asked, waving a hand at the blue sky and the gorgeous women. "You could be freezing your butt off in Cleveland or Milwaukee next year."

"That's fine," he replied. "As long as somebody wants me, I don't really care where I go."


We shook hands. I thought about wishing him luck, but Bobby didn't need any more luck. He was cashing in. So instead, I said, "Congratulations."

"Thank you," Simmons said. "I appreciate it."

And with that, the Cut-the-Check Club adjourned for the summer.

45-50 million, eh? Sounds like a 5 year contract with the Cavaliers..
 
Simmons coming to Cleveland isn't a sure thing either. The Clippers have lots of money to spend and after missing out on Allen might do all they can to keep Simmons.
I'm not sure Simmons is a guy I would want to give a huge contract to. Signing him to a 5 year deal averaging about $7-7.5 is about as high as I'd go. He's a good player and would help but in reality he's only had 1 decent season in his career. Up until last year he was basically an average backup role player. I like Simmons, I just don't think it's smart to give him a huge overpriced contract.
 
If we do end up with Bobby Simmons, it makes the resigning of Ilgauskas vital. Bobby isn't a goto scorer. He should not be considered the teams 2nd option. He proved last season that he can be a solid complimentary scorer, similar to what Johnson brought to the Suns, but on the next rung down.
 
As I've pointed out in a thread I started on being happy that Redd passed on the Cavs offer ....I LOVE BOBBY SIMMONS. Guys will say that he's only had one good year...well his career has taken a simlar course as Michael Redd's in that he's worked and worked and worked to get better, and the results are astonishing. He's a blue collar, hard working player that has improved his game from being a defensive oriented role player in the mold of Ira Newble, and enhanced his offensive game markedly. He would come much cheaper than Redd, and bring a much more rounded game, if not quite as pure a shooter. He doesn't demand the ball as much as Redd and that's fine. He'll be the guy that gets the open look when Lebron is shut down, or Z has to kick out (if he will) ...I know he's a SF, but Lebron can easily adjust to the offguard spot, and Simmons can always take the tougher defensive assignment. This is the guy I want, I see him as a better fit than Hughes ..

Lebron / Pavlovic
Simmons/ Newble
Z/ Traylor (get him back! )
Swift/ Varejao
Snow/ Daniels

I think this could be plausible if we can work some sort of deal with Gooden...
 
Hughes would help us in many ways as well as JJ and Simmons. All 3 imo is a better fit than Redd and Allen would be. Just because all 3 have more all around games.

JJ-Plays the 1 and the 2 and decent defensively
Hughes-1st defensive team also plays the 1-2
Simmons good defensively and a good rebounder mainly because of his long arms.

Redd isn't much of a passer and wasn't much of a shooter last yr.Not even gonna talk about defense...

Ray Allen is the oldest and isn't much of a defender either...but you can be sure it was better than Redds which is a piss poor defender and even bucks fans can vouch for that!
 

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