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The Dedmon trade request could open the door for the Cavs to have conversations with the Kings with a Kevin Love deal.

CLE Receives:
Dewayne Dedmon $13.3m
Bogdan Bogdanovic $8.5m
Harry Giles $2.6m

SAC Recieves:
Kevin Love $28.9m

This trade would give the Cavs $4.5 million in savings in the current year, though would cause them to go over the roster limit... waiving Zizic, or a Brandon Knight buyout would be the likely solution to that issue in my opinion. The $4.5 million cushion also puts them almost $10m away from the luxury tax, giving them more flexibility in taking on a salary dump with Knight's deal if they chose to go that route. Or they could simply not use any other expirings, and the Cavs could take advantage of the Bogdanovic & Giles cap holds and still have over $20 million in cap space this summer to work with after adding a top draft pick to the books.

The reason I think this deal could be possible is that the Cavs could have a ton of leverage over Sacramento with the impending free agencies of Bogdanovic and Giles. By my math, if Bogdanovic were to receive a $20 million offer sheet this summer, the Kings would have about $11 million of space under the tax to fill 4 roster spots. They're currently projected to finish with a mid-late lottery pick that would eat into that $11m number quickly. This is where the leverage comes in... the Cavs could let the Kings know they intend on giving large offer sheets to Bogdan/Giles in the upcoming summer, likely forcing them into the tax, or close to it if they choose to match. You can't tell me going into the tax for a non-playoff team is an option for Sacramento while bringing back the same roster.

The Kings also have no outgoing draft picks in the future, and have three additional 2020 second round picks in addition to their own. I'm sure there'd be negotiations around draft compensation as well in addition to the players above.

The Cavs could also flip Dedmon in a separate deal, or use him as an expiring next year ($1m guarantee in 2021-22) if they so choose.

In the end, their roster would shape up as follows:

PG: Garland, Sexton, Exum
SG: KPJ, Osman
SF: Bogdanovic, Windler
PF: Nance, Giles
C: Dedmon

Along with a top pick and their choice of either Tristan's bird rights or ~ $20m in cap space.

The other key part of this deal is the long term outlook. Taking Love off the books, adding say $35 million for salaries to Bogdanovic/Giles/Dedmon partial guarantee, and adding an additional estimated $18 million for draft picks in the next two drafts, the Cavs could have one last chance in free agency with about $20 million in space in the summer of 2021 (and players theoretically entering the prime).
 
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Intriguing idea, LOS. Well-thought-out as always. It makes a lot of sense from both sides.

Ultimately, I want more assets (picks) from Sacramento ... and I'm willing to "buy" them (I like spending Dan Gilbert's money) via taking on bad contracts. So I played around with deals that would also include Cory Joseph, who has been hot garbage ever since he signed a three-year deal with Sactown this summer. I'm assuming that Sacramento would want to move on from him. Much like Dedmon, Joseph makes eight figures this year and next, and then has a minimal guarantee ($2.4 million buyout) for 2021-22.

With that in mind, here are a few variations of your trade:

Version 1: Love + Brandon Knight ($44.6m total) for Bogdanovic/Dedmon/Joseph/Giles ($36.4m total)
Version 2: Love + Ante Zizic + Alfonso McKinnie ($32.8m) for Bogdanovic/Dedmon/Joseph/Giles ($36.4m)
Version 3: Love + Collin Sexton ($33.7m) for Bogdanovic/Dedmon/Joseph/Giles ($36.4m) (could add Zizic/McKinnie to this deal as well)

Of course there would need to be draft pick compensation as well, especially in scenario #3.

In all three trades, the basic idea is to buy Sacramento's bad contracts in exchange for Love, while also getting the rights to Bogdanovic and Giles. (FTR, I'm not very optimistic about Giles, but I agree that it's worth taking a half-season flier on him, much like they did with Chriss last season.) Dedmon + Joseph would be a small savings vs. Love this season, a slightly larger savings in 2020-21, and then a huge savings in the following two seasons (I'm assuming both of their option years would be declined).

The question would ultimately come down to the amount of draft pick compensation that Sacramento would include (especially in the scenario that includes Sexton -- I'm willing to trade him, but I am not looking to dump him). But this could definitely be the framework for a deal.
 

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I dont think Love fits next to Bagley (if hes ever healthy) and Barnes (who Luke still like playing at a small ball PF).

I LOVE the idea of getting Bogs and Giles, though. Would be happy being wrong about what Vlade would do.
 

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I don't trust Bogdan. He refused to play for the Suns and said he would spend his career in Europe if they didn't deal him. Kings have Vlade as the GM who is also from Serbia which likely makes more comfortable for him with another Serbian around the building. We could trade for him and just as easily see him go back to Europe because he doesn't wanna play here.
 

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The Dedmon trade request could open the door for the Cavs to have conversations with the Kings with a Kevin Love deal.

CLE Receives:
Dewayne Dedmon $13.3m
Bogdan Bogdanovic $8.5m
Harry Giles $2.6m

SAC Recieves:
Kevin Love $28.9m

This trade would give the Cavs $4.5 million in savings in the current year, though would cause them to go over the roster limit... waiving Zizic, or a Brandon Knight buyout would be the likely solution to that issue in my opinion. The $4.5 million cushion also puts them almost $10m away from the luxury tax, giving them more flexibility in taking on a salary dump with Knight's deal if they chose to go that route. Or they could simply not use any other expirings, and the Cavs could take advantage of the Bogdanovic & Giles cap holds and still have over $20 million in cap space this summer to work with after adding a top draft pick to the books.

The reason I think this deal could be possible is that the Cavs could have a ton of leverage over Sacramento with the impending free agencies of Bogdanovic and Giles. By my math, if Bogdanovic were to receive a $20 million offer sheet this summer, the Kings would have about $11 million of space under the tax to fill 4 roster spots. They're currently projected to finish with a mid-late lottery pick that would eat into that $11m number quickly. This is where the leverage comes in... the Cavs could let the Kings know they intend on giving large offer sheets to Bogdan/Giles in the upcoming summer, likely forcing them into the tax, or close to it if they choose to match. You can't tell me going into the tax for a non-playoff team is an option for Sacramento while bringing back the same roster.

The Kings also have no outgoing draft picks in the future, and have three additional 2020 second round picks in addition to their own. I'm sure there'd be negotiations around draft compensation as well in addition to the players above.

The Cavs could also flip Dedmon in a separate deal, or use him as an expiring next year ($1m guarantee in 2021-22) if they so choose.

In the end, their roster would shape up as follows:

PG: Garland, Sexton, Exum
SG: KPJ, Osman
SF: Bogdanovic, Windler
PF: Nance, Giles
C: Dedmon

Along with a top pick and their choice of either Tristan's bird rights or ~ $20m in cap space.

The other key part of this deal is the long term outlook. Taking Love off the books, adding say $35 million for salaries to Bogdanovic/Giles/Dedmon partial guarantee, and adding an additional estimated $18 million for draft picks in the next two drafts, the Cavs could have one last chance in free agency with about $20 million in space in the summer of 2021 (and players theoretically entering the prime).
That's interesting.

The only caveat I'd add is that the leverage you describe doesn't help only the Cavs. If the Cavs threaten to give big offer sheets to Bogdan/Giles, that might push Sac to make a trade...but they'd have no more reason to trade with the Cavs in particular than with any other team. Divac may feel he can do better than Love...who I believe really doesn't do all that much for them.
 

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