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Breaking Bad Season 5

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it is sooo funny how that kid is supposed to be 16

Well he is only 19 (15 when the show first aired), its not as bad as disney having 30 year olds playing highschoolers.
 
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Did Season 5 start already? I've been avoiding this thread until I finished Season 4 and I just finished it. THE LAST 3 EPISODES OF SEASON 4 WERE EPIC!!!!!! Wow that was freakin intense. Crazy finish.

On a side note, did Walt end up minipulating Jesse against Gus's minipulation? Was Walt the one that actually poisoned the boy to make it look like Gus did to make it look like Walt did? (confusing but you know what I mean I think). That is freakin genius. And Gus is dead for sure right? Mind blown right now.
 
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I think it has to be Jesse who finally brings him down. There is just too much Walt has done to him (Jane, Brock, Gale - some of it justifiable). I just think Jesse will finally reach a breaking point. Plus, in rewatching Season 4, there was a line that seemed to foreshadow a Walt/Jesse showdown. In the "I am the one who knocks" scene, Schyler asks Walt if he needs to be worried about the man who shot Gale, to which Walt just rolls his eyes. That foreshadowing could have already come to fruition in their confrontation in the last episode (maybe next to last) of season 4, but I got the feeling it had a deeper meaning.

Ya, but Jesse gets mind F'd when he kills people. Everytime he kills someone it like sticks with him and messes him up and he hates doing it. He couldn't pull the trigger on Walt before and he was that mad at him. Walt on the other hand will do whatever it takes to keep himself alive and doesn't really have a conscience. If it came down to it, I think Walt would kill Jesse before Jesse kills Walt, even though Jesse has shown he can beat Walts @ss. But at this point they have still had each others back for the most part and they have made it this far so maybe they will have an even stronger relationship than before. Even though they both have done some messed up stuff to each other, Walt has saved Jesse's life more than once, and Jesse had Walt's back when Gus wanted to kill him.
 
Did Season 5 start already? I've been avoiding this thread until I finished Season 4 and I just finished it. THE LAST 3 EPISODES OF SEASON 4 WERE EPIC!!!!!! Wow that was freakin intense. Crazy finish.

On a side note, did Walt end up minipulating Jesse against Gus's minipulation? Was Walt the one that actually poisoned the boy to make it look like Gus did to make it look like Walt did? (confusing but you know what I mean I think). That is freakin genius. And Gus is dead for sure right? Mind blown right now.

Season 5 starts July 15th.
 
Did Season 5 start already? I've been avoiding this thread until I finished Season 4 and I just finished it. THE LAST 3 EPISODES OF SEASON 4 WERE EPIC!!!!!! Wow that was freakin intense. Crazy finish.

On a side note, did Walt end up minipulating Jesse against Gus's minipulation? Was Walt the one that actually poisoned the boy to make it look like Gus did to make it look like Walt did? (confusing but you know what I mean I think). That is freakin genius. And Gus is dead for sure right? Mind blown right now.

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The way I interpreted it, yes. By poisoning Brock and framing Gus for it, Walt manipulated Jesse into baiting Gus to come to the hospital. And when that failed, Jesse gave Walt access to the only place Gus would leave himself exposed (the nursing home where Hector lived). Without Walt getting that information, he doesn't kill Gus.

If you recall in the next-to-last episode, Walt is sitting by the pool spinning his gun on the table. After the first two spins, the gun was pointed at him. After the third spin, the gun pointed toward a plant. You see Walt pause for a second, and then you could see a moment or realization on his face. This is when he got the idea to poison Brock and blame it on Gus. After all, Gus had (allegedly) already hurt children to protect himself. At the end of the season, they zoomed in on the Lily of the Valley plant again, seeming to confirm that Walt indeed poisoned Brock.

The question is how he got to Brock. I think he ended up having Saul do it, since he would regularly go to their house to drop off Jesse's money.

And yes, Gus is dead. RIP Chicken Man.
 
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If you recall in the next-to-last episode, Walt is sitting by the pool spinning his gun on the table. After the first two spins, the gun was pointed at him. After the third spin, the gun pointed toward a plant. You see Walt pause for a second, and then you could see a moment or realization on his face. This is when he got the idea to poison Brock and blame it on Gus.

Yea I remember that, but I didn't make the connection. Holy crap. I thought it was pointing at the door way in the moment. I didn't understand the significance until now. Good pick up.
 
Yea I remember that, but I didn't make the connection. Holy crap. I thought it was pointing at the door way in the moment. I didn't understand the significance until now. Good pick up.

That's what is so awesome about the show. Some of the biggest clues are very subtle. Take season 2, for example. Here are the titles for the episodes:

"Seven Thirty-Seven"
"Grilled"
"Bit by a Dead Bee"
"Down"
"Breakage"
"Peekaboo"
"Negro y Azul"
"Better Call Saul"
"4 Days Out"
"Over"
"Mandala"
"Phoenix"
"ABQ"

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Vince Gilligan said he didn't want to make it too obvious, so he spaced out the episode titles throughout the season instead of all in a row. But damn, that's some good foreshadowing.
 
That's what is so awesome about the show. Some of the biggest clues are very subtle. Take season 2, for example. Here are the titles for the episodes:

"Seven Thirty-Seven"
"Grilled"
"Bit by a Dead Bee"
"Down"
"Breakage"
"Peekaboo"
"Negro y Azul"
"Better Call Saul"
"4 Days Out"
"Over"
"Mandala"
"Phoenix"
"ABQ"

737 Down Over Albuquerque

Vince Gilligan said he didn't want to make it too obvious, so he spaced out the episode titles throughout the season instead of all in a row. But damn, that's some good foreshadowing.

wow never woulda noticed that.


Love the begining clips before every episode. I'm sure they have something lined up for season 5.

Season four took it to a new leevel for me.
-The blood in the pool
-Broken glasses on the ground, blood on the shoe

BEST.SHOW.EVER
 
Super pumped for this shit.
 
Love the begining clips before every episode. I'm sure they have something lined up for season 5.

You would be correct. Here is what I read regarding the opening segment for Season 5:

"a scene that’s going to have more fans speculating about Mr. White’s future than anything we’ve seen since season 2′s infamous opener with the torched toy in the pool"

Cannot. Fucking. Wait.
 
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I think it would be cool if in Season 5 Walter White is just a total bad@ss and is the head of his own super meth lab and rakes in more money than ever before and is the total majority. It would be cool to see the transformation starting from Season 1 from being a pussy school teacher to turning into a hardcore meth lord by Season 5. But either way no matter what happens, I hope Hank finds out and even better if Walt tells it to his face. I want to see his reaction. I've been wanting that to happen since like Season 2. I predict that the end could be a shoot out between Walt and Hank and one of them will die (probably Walt). That would be epic.
 
I wonder if Skyler is going to pick up the pieces of Walt's empire, assuming he dies. She has gone through her own process of "breaking bad" over the course of the show.

- She knows about Walt's occupation, and constructed a lie to keep it secret.
- She bought a car wash to launder Walt's money.
- She staged a lie to get Bagdan to sell the car wash.
- She covered for Ted's embezzlement to protect herself and to keep Walt's occupation secret.
- When Ted tried to extort her, she sent some men over to intimidate him into making the decision she wanted. This led to him dying (or maybe just seriously injured).

The last point is important, as she seems to be following down the same path as Walt, albeit a few seasons behind him. A lot of Walt's descent wasn't necessarily him being outwardly evil, but instead people played a price for his actions indirectly. (Jane in season 2, along with all the people on the planes, died from Walt's indirect actions.)

Just a pet theory of mine that I don't really even believe.
 
Don't think Ted is dead, just knocked himself out using a rug.

I'm really curious to see what happens with Mike. Part of me sees him coming back from Mexico and murdering someone close to Walt. The other side of me sees him not playing a role in the show at all, after all he was always a "business is business" type of guy.
 

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