Browns 2021 Off-Season Thread

[Selby]

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Found this doozy on CBS…who would you guys pick?

Cody Kessler. You've got to trust me on this one.

 

[Kbiz]

I'm still a believer to this day that Manziel could have been a solid QB if he could get his shit together off the field and study/work hard to improve. For one game in Stefanski's system I'd roll the dice with Johnny. Definitely not for a season.

So essentially what you're saying is he could've been a solid QB if he was an entirely different person.

The maf checks out.

 

[Vee-Rex]

So essentially what you're saying is he could've been a solid QB if he was an entirely different person.

The maf checks out.

My point was that he had the skills to stand out, just not the mindset/mentality to develop them. Not sure I can say the same about many of our failed QBs - but point taken.

 

[MGMT]

um Kessler was the best freshman qb ever so there you go.

I honestly thought that watching him; never saw poise like that from a kid

 

[Kbiz]

My point was that he had the skills to stand out, just not the mindset/mentality to develop them. Not sure I can say the same about many of our failed QBs - but point taken.

I was hyped on Manziel myself. Didn’t realize what a little shit he was so I hear you. He had a few decent games for us while practically drunk from the night before. Certainly had some potential if he hadn’t been such a mess.

 

[FiveThous]

Cody Kessler. You've got to trust me on this one.

What you did, I see it.

 

[Ohio]

I've been watching this show/podcast for a little while now, it's pretty insightful.

Following up on this:


Until their podcast popped up on my youtube a few months ago (the episode with Cam Newton), I had never heard of it and really had forgotten about Brandon Marshall altogether (and Fred Taylor to a lesser extent). But the podcast is seriously good content, and the House of Athlete stuff that Marshall has put together is pretty damn cool. Good for him/them and cool to see the Browns taking advantage of it.

 

[Vee-Rex]

Following up on this:


Until their podcast popped up on my youtube a few months ago (the episode with Cam Newton), I had never heard of it and really had forgotten about Brandon Marshall altogether (and Fred Taylor to a lesser extent). But the podcast is seriously good content, and the House of Athlete stuff that Marshall has put together is pretty damn cool. Good for him/them and cool to see the Browns taking advantage of it.

I’ll always dislike Brandon Marshall because of how much he hated on the Browns and Baker on First Things First.

 

[Ohio]

I’ll always dislike Brandon Marshall because of how much he hated on the Browns and Baker on First Things First.

Can't say I've ever seen/watched it. But I know he's not the biggest Baker fan based on some of his comments from the podcast.

Wonder if his opinion has changed at all with Baker & his teammates being together at Marshall's facility this Summer.

 

[blommen]

I’ll always dislike Brandon Marshall because of how much he hated on the Browns and Baker on First Things First.

A lot of that animosity is so nakedly performative and just a product of how the show is structured though. Nick Wright taking the pro browns position necessitates that Marshall takes the opposing position. It is to FTF's credit, that they don't fall completely into First Take/Undisputed territory of just mindless contrarian debate fuckery, and there is room for changing perspectives and opinions, but it's still largely pantomime. The blatant moving of goalposts wrt the Browns last year kinda highlighted that to the point where it become open satire on FTF, like you could tell it was a bit and not that serious.

 

[Beanie4Heisman]

In other words: Trash TV

 

[Ohio]

In other words: Trash TV

This is why I've never seen or heard it

Those manufactured drama "debate" shows are a complete waste of time. Haven't spent even a moment watching those in years.

 

[Vee-Rex]

A lot of that animosity is so nakedly performative and just a product of how the show is structured though. Nick Wright taking the pro browns position necessitates that Marshall takes the opposing position. It is to FTF's credit, that they don't fall completely into First Take/Undisputed territory of just mindless contrarian debate fuckery, and there is room for changing perspectives and opinions, but it's still largely pantomime. The blatant moving of goalposts wrt the Browns last year kinda highlighted that to the point where it become open satire on FTF, like you could tell it was a bit and not that serious.

In the case of FTF, it seemed far more personal from Marshall than others. It didn't quite feel like the Marcellus Wiley vs. Emmanuel Acho anti-Browns vs. pro-Browns takes. Or Undisputed with Shannon and Skip. You can kind of tell when it's just contrarian takes.

Just my interpretation - as I actually like Colin Cowherd (because his ridiculousness is so transparent and phony). But sometimes you can tell when it's not so performative, and I felt that away about Brandon Marshall.

FWIW: I know a lot of people call that stuff trash TV and will demonize it but I generally find it funny. Just my perspective but I like seeing where my Browns are in the media, since it was all trashing and bashing for 20 years.

 

[blommen]

In the case of FTF, it seemed far more personal from Marshall than others. It didn't quite feel like the Marcellus Wiley vs. Emmanuel Acho anti-Browns vs. pro-Browns takes. Or Undisputed with Shannon and Skip. You can kind of tell when it's just contrarian takes.

Just my interpretation - as I actually like Colin Cowherd (because his ridiculousness is so transparent and phony). But sometimes you can tell when it's not so performative, and I felt that away about Brandon Marshall.

FWIW: I know a lot of people call that stuff trash TV and will demonize it but I generally find it funny. Just my perspective but I like seeing where my Browns are in the media, since it was all trashing and bashing for 20 years.

I think some of that maybe stems from Marshalls diagnosis as being borderline, which means he can struggle with regulating and moderating his own emotional reactions. He can burn extremely hot and sorta lose himself a bit in the "performance" so to speak.

 

[B Mac]

This might be nothing, but since there’s not much news I figured some might be interested.

My buddy was transferring some of his season tickets and noticed that the Raiders game which was originally scheduled for Dec 19th is now showing up as Dec 18th in his account. Might be that the NFL has already moved it to Saturday night, might just be an error.

Any other season ticket holders notice this?