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“But as always, I know nothing and reserve the right to go back on what I’m reporting.”
The toughest thing about being an owner is that you have to select the right experts, from among a pool of people who are the most expert in their field in the world, without having any actual expertise yourself. How do you do that? Whose voice are you supposed to trust when you're trying to pick coaches/GM's? Sure, there are structural processes you can follow, but ultimately, the bottom line is that it's like being an English teacher asked to choose which particular design team is the best one to build a spaceship to Mars. You lack the expertise to choose among the experts.
So, it largely becomes trial and error -- picking the people who seem best to you as a layperson, and hopefully being able to reward success. Problem is that we really haven't had enough success to reward, so it's been reboot after reboot.
If there were a bunch of Jimmy's past hires about whom you could say "we let all those guys get away because we didn't give them enough time, and look at all the success they've had since then", it would be easier to condemn him for impatience. But I'm like you -- I think that if these guys show progress, Jimmy will keep them on, and let them do their thing.
Interesting (to me, at least) fact that I found while looking up team histories for that last post:
Even with their Godawful performance since returning in 1999, the Browns have an all-time record above .500 (522-504-14).
That's like your uncle bragging that he banged Diana Ross... then finding out it wasn't a story from his prime years. He banged her last year in the old folks home.
I think it’s gonna happen and he’s gonna join his boy Kevin.
Vikings assistant general manager George Paton wrapped up his second GM interview with the Browns and headed back to Minnesota, a league source told cleveland.com. The two sides will remain in contact to see if it’s a fit for both.
A league source said Browns coach Kevin Stefanski wants Paton ‘in the worst way,’ but both sides have some things to work through before they’re ready to make the commitment.
Stefanski and the Browns also really like Eagles Vice President of Football Operations Andrew Berry, who was here from 2016-18 as Vice President of Player Personnel. They also interviewed Patriots Director of College Scouting Monti Ossenfort.
Paton, who would have final say over roster decisions, was reluctant to accept the initial interview because he assumed the job would go Berry, a favorite of Jimmy Haslam and Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta, a league source told cleveland.com.
But he agreed to it for a chance to work with new Browns coach Kevin Stefanski, with whom he spent 13 years in Minnesota, Paton’s entire tenure there. In that span, Paton and Stefanski helped take the Vikings to the playoffs six times, including the NFC Championship Game twice.
Stefanski will be available to the media Wednesday night at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards ceremony at the Renaissance Hotel in downtown Cleveland, where he’s a presenter.
Paton must determine if he has a comfort level working with Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta, who reports directly to Browns ownership, along with the coach and GM. Ownership includes Jimmy and Dee Haslam, and their son-in-law JW Johnson, the Executive Vice President of the team.
Vikings assistant general manager George Paton wrapped up his second GM interview with the Browns and headed back to Minnesota, a league source told cleveland.com. The two sides will remain in contact to see if it’s a fit for both.
A league source said Browns coach Kevin Stefanski wants Paton ‘in the worst way,’ but both sides have some things to work through before they’re ready to make the commitment.
Stefanski and the Browns also really like Eagles Vice President of Football Operations Andrew Berry, who was here from 2016-18 as Vice President of Player Personnel. They also interviewed Patriots Director of College Scouting Monti Ossenfort.
Paton, who would have final say over roster decisions, was reluctant to accept the initial interview because he assumed the job would go Berry, a favorite of Jimmy Haslam and Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta, a league source told cleveland.com.
But he agreed to it for a chance to work with new Browns coach Kevin Stefanski, with whom he spent 13 years in Minnesota, Paton’s entire tenure there. In that span, Paton and Stefanski helped take the Vikings to the playoffs six times, including the NFC Championship Game twice.
Stefanski will be available to the media Wednesday night at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards ceremony at the Renaissance Hotel in downtown Cleveland, where he’s a presenter.
Paton must determine if he has a comfort level working with Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta, who reports directly to Browns ownership, along with the coach and GM. Ownership includes Jimmy and Dee Haslam, and their son-in-law JW Johnson, the Executive Vice President of the team.
Every single time JW’s listed, he’s listed as the Haslam’s son in law. How can it be their son in law. Doesn’t he have to be one of their fucking sonsOwnership includes Jimmy and Dee Haslam, and their son-in-law JW Johnson
Not if hes married to their child...Every single time JW’s listed, he’s listed as the Haslam’s son in law. How can it be their son in law. Doesn’t he have to be one of their fucking sons
Every single time JW’s listed, he’s listed as the Haslam’s son in law. How can it be their son in law. Doesn’t he have to be one of their fucking sons
Every single time JW’s listed, he’s listed as the Haslam’s son in law. How can it be their son in law. Doesn’t he have to be one of their fucking sons