What was worth it?
The mythical ability of mentorship that you don't even know if Taylor provided? Whom Mayfield hasn't said a word about while calling out Stanton as a mentor by name?
Seriously, what was the benefit?
I guess we will just have to disagree on that one. It just always seemed like a waste to use an asset on a guy that had no future here. It created a situation where Baker wasn't given a proper opportunity to compete for the starting job as well.Turns out no, it wasn't. But not many rookie QB's are this ready from day 1. When the trade was made it was an ok move, turns out it was a waste. My whole point is the hindsight factor is easy to judge.
Turns out no, it wasn't. But not many rookie QB's are this ready from day 1. When the trade was made it was an ok move, turns out it was a waste. My whole point is the hindsight factor is easy to judge.
Even if he came back, I don't think a high-end backup is worth a 3rd round pickI still firmly stand behind my initial thoughts that trading a top 65 draft pick for any player with 1 year left on his deal who 100% won't be back the following year is not a good use of assets.
Kizer for Randall was grand theft airplane.
Love Randall and stoked that he wants to re-sign here forever.
I’ve seen the resign thing a few times and can’t find a quote. Where did this come from?
Mayfield came into the league at age 23. I mean, if you're taken number 1 overall, and you're already that age. But not ready, maybe you just aren't good..
That's why a lot of us question this move. This is not the old NFL. Patrick Mahomes is probably going to win MVP at 23. Goff is just 24. Now, I get it, guys like this and even Mayfield are anomalies.
But this mentor QB shit is overrated. Just stick them with a good offensive minded coach.
We failed to do that with Baker (Todd Haley), but accidentally did with Kitchens.
No one can tell me Tyrod Taylor made dent of difference in what Baker did this year.
Trading a third round pick for him at the time was DUMB! And it turned out to be even worse in hindsight.
You'd obviously hope that Mayfield would have been able to win the starting job sooner than later.
But until that point...unprofessional/incompetent QB play destroys morale, and makes it very difficult for your other skill position players to develop. It can even screw over your defense if the offense can't get off the field.
Taylor was insurance in case Mayfield wasn't ready. He was expensive insurance, but Dorsey 's No. 1 priority was trying to ensure we had at least decent QB play. Turns out Tyrod didn't give us even that, though that may have been due to the incompetence of Hue/Haley.
Again. For the 3rd time. We traded for Tyrod in mid-March.I just don't see how they even thought this. Mayfield should have been the starter from DAY ONE! You could find plenty of veteran and wise Josh McClown's in the league to come in and mentor him.
It was obvious from day one in preseason, this guy needs to start. There was no question about it. NONE.
The fact they didn't see that kinda bothers me. Hell, the freakin' Jets saw Darnold should start right away. We had an even more ready QB and we saw fit to bury him on the bench, and throw away a draft pick while doing it.
I like Dorsey, but he deserves a real WTF and F- for this move.
Fair enough, I’ll drop it. It just bothers me that some cannot see why it mattered from a timeline perspective.At a certain point everyone has made their position clear, and no one is going to change their stance. There’s a difference in philosophy here. People have been making the same point and counterpoint for the last couple pages.
So how about we stop this repetitive as hell Tyrod discussion (in the Kizer/Randall trade thread btw) and move on with our lives?