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The last part, yes. The Bolt for example has poor ratings in the cold, which is what scared me off of it. An EV with a heat pump looks like the best way to go. GM is working to add them, and the Kias.and Hyundai's have them too.

The good news is you sound like you are in my boat, and a few years off from an EV... I think the market has time to adjust, and now if the EVs in the way, and even the current ones, can make changes to be more cold weather friendly.
Yeah I forgot to mention and ask about the heat pump. I’m hoping that these manufacturers can improve the technology by the time my current car craps out.
 
Yeah I forgot to mention and ask about the heat pump. I’m hoping that these manufacturers can improve the technology by the time my current car craps out.

I think heat pump technology will get better but I think it's going to be hard to figure out how to make them really effective in real cold weather. Some of the problems with air source heat pumps is the evaporator coil needs to stop and defrost which could be troublesome in short stint and cold start situations like in cars. Like the heating might take a while to come in because the evaporator has to defrost first or the heat might just turn off to defrost the coil.

In a heat pump for a house something like that isn't so troublesome because the heat runs on a cycle 24/7. They have to turn off for 10-15 minutes every so often to defrost the coil. How long they would have to turn off to defrost on a car would be interesting or how long it would take to defrost one that has been sitting off all night.
 
Yeah I forgot to mention and ask about the heat pump. I’m hoping that these manufacturers can improve the technology by the time my current car craps out.

Heat pump + super manifold + octovalve. Nobody else does this kind of integration because they outsource different pieces, thus don't have the opportunity to integrate them into a single system.

 
This should be a big boost for all EVs.

 
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They issued an over the air software update. Completely idiotic it's called a recall.

Using that terminology, Apple recalls a billion iPhones every few weeks.
 
They issued an over the air software update. Completely idiotic it's called a recall.

Using that terminology, Apple recalls a billion iPhones every few weeks.
Why is it idiotic to call it a recall?

Is it because recall means something different in your mind than what this is?

Sort of like... you know... "full self driving"?
 
Why is it idiotic to call it a recall?

Is it because recall means something different in your mind than what this is?

Sort of like... you know... "full self driving"?

Recall suggests taking the vehicle back to the dealer to have hardware changes that cost significant money.

It's a software update, just like Apple does every few weeks.

And it's currently called Full Self Driving Beta, software updates are both expected and highly anticipated events.
 
Recall suggests taking the vehicle back to the dealer to have hardware changes that cost significant money.
It does not mean that.

There are multiple recalls for my 10 year old Ford. Some of them are just software updates.

But if you think it means that to you, well, you sort of hit the nail on the head--right?
 
They issued an over the air software update. Completely idiotic it's called a recall.

Using that terminology, Apple recalls a billion iPhones every few weeks.
I was tagging you 100% as a troll. :chuckle:
 
Alright I’m starting to plan for the next car. Currently have a 2016 Malibu that is approaching 120k and is paid off. We have two young kids (2 year old and a 3 month old) and possibly going for 3. I really would like an EV, but I’m not sure I can afford a brand new one. Would hybrid be ok at this point? I love Jeep wranglers but I’m not sure that’s the best for a family vehicle. Any suggestions?
 
I'd strongly suggest you avoid Wranglers as an every day driver. They aren't very roomy for a growing family and they are uncomfortable to drive. They are great as a 2nd car and you want to take it out to have fun but I would never buy it as my main car. (I have one).

I'd go with some form of an SUV, especially if you plan on having this car for another 8 years. Kids, their stuff, and their friends take up a lot of space. I've been impressed with the Kia's lately. I think they are pretty sharp and they have a good warranty. Can't go wrong with Honda or Toyota but they have a bit of a premium price to them.
 
I think you already know this, but regarding kids, it's NOT about what you want/like, it's about what you NEED.

Nix the Jeep as your primary. Get a solid SUV that can best accommodate your family's growth over the next 10 years.
(if you have the room/resources, you can always also get a used jeep as a toy down the road)

As for an EV vs hybrid... l like the hybrid transition for now. Less charging anxiety when considering all possible scenarios. Your NEXT vehicle will most likely be an EV, let the market develop imo.
 
Alright I’m starting to plan for the next car. Currently have a 2016 Malibu that is approaching 120k and is paid off. We have two young kids (2 year old and a 3 month old) and possibly going for 3. I really would like an EV, but I’m not sure I can afford a brand new one. Would hybrid be ok at this point? I love Jeep wranglers but I’m not sure that’s the best for a family vehicle. Any suggestions?

My advice is start research on your next car, pay yourself $500 a month till the Malibu's wheels fall of in 60-80k miles, take the money you made paying yourself 6k a year for 4 years or so and come as close to paying cash for a car as possible, but know what you want because the goal is to take almost all the useful life you can out of the paid off car.

As for cars, I drive a Hyndai and have had several over the years and never run into problems until over 150k miles. Not the sexiest cars but practical.
 
My advice is start research on your next car, pay yourself $500 a month till the Malibu's wheels fall of in 60-80k miles, take the money you made paying yourself 6k a year for 4 years or so and come as close to paying cash for a car as possible, but know what you want because the goal is to take almost all the useful life you can out of the paid off car.

As for cars, I drive a Hyndai and have had several over the years and never run into problems until over 150k miles. Not the sexiest cars but practical.
Yeah I’m not the biggest car guy and love that I have no car payments at this time. This is probably what I needed to hear, I don’t NEED a car right now and continue to save for the next one.
 

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