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i just don't understand how we should be geared towards getting to the finals. ;) although it would be nice. that's just not realistic.

isn't this supposed to be a process ?

regular season succsess
then playoffs
then playoff succsess
then finals ?

i think the teams that are geared, are teams such as dallas, indiana, and before this season minnesota.. missing a piece here and there.

we're missing alot more then those teams.
 
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this looks like a romeo crennel type hire. the thing is romeo was at least proven that he was ready to take the next step to head coach. brown might very well be all that they say he is, and yes a defensive minded coach is what we were looking for, but he is unproven. an up and coming coach in the most important time of our franchise??...??

i also think that being african-american might have had something to do with this hire. hey lebron probably has a say in all decisions. he wanted mcmillian.. gilbert might not of wanted to wait that long or lose out on the possibilty of him not coming here. lebron might of wanted someone he could look up to and develop a lasting relationship. hind-sight is 20 20 on these things..

in all though i am going to try to support this guy. if mike brown is the man, then i am all for mike brown. defense does win championships. heres hoping that he turns the next page in the cavaliers history and is very succesful..
 
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Was Mike Brown an assistant for the Spurs while Antonio Daniels was on the team? If so, maybe signing Brown will attract Daniels to play for the Cavs.
 
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Im not that excited about bringing in a rook coach either, but im really confident that this guy will be a good coach for us. He spent fifteen years learning under Bickerstaff, Popovich, and Carlisle, some of the best coaches in the league. He supposedly had a big influence on the defensive schemes that the Spurs and Pacers used. He is said to be a guy the players can relate to and be friends with, while still being firm motivator and teacher.

Phil Jackson started out as a rookie coach that was previously one of the most respected assistants in the league. He ended up taking MJ's Bulls to multiple championships. Im not saying that the same thing will happen for Brown, but im just hoping it will, and its possible.
 
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i'm all for it :thumbup:

everybody 's got to start somewhere..

i feel alot better about this then say these other teams that just grab somebody because they were a player such as

bucks- terry porter
raptors- sam mitchell..

honestly if you can't get phil, larry, or flip, why not give this a shot ? he has learned from a few of the best coaches in the league..

i just hope we make smart personal decisions now..
 
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I don't know much about Brown.

But one thing that is good in the short term for the Cav's organization is that they got a coach with a lot of experience under big name generals like Carlisle.
And that they have just ended a rediculous media circus. Gilbert was getting roasted in the court of public opinion, quite unfairly it seems. From what I can tell, he did nothing but a typical coaching search that all teams go through. But the media made it seem as though he was desperately trying to find a coach that wouldn't turn them down.

Now they can put that past them and fill in their holes.
 
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We didnt even bring Flip in for a look, so we didnt even go after him.

Why sign a rookie coach and not bring in the best available coach for an invterview first?
 
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I'm not overly excited about the Mike Brown hire. I had thought that the Cavs had now reached a level where they could hire a proven winner and we would know exactly what we were getting. Mike Brown is a risk. No one really knows how he'll be as a head coach. I was expecting a proven commodity rather than an unknown risk who we just have to hope works out.

Brown has never been a head coach at any level. The head coaching job is very different from the assistants job. Some can't handle it and many fail in their 1st opportunities.

In regard to a couple of things mentioned earlier. Musselman was coach in Golden St for 2 seasons and led a mediocre team to it's best records in over a decade. He also coached in the CBA before that. Phil Jackson also was a former CBA coach before going to Chicago and eventually moving up. The CBA has proven to be a very good training ground for future NBA coaches. George Karl and Flip Saunders also started in the CBA.

I'm really not enthusiastic about any of the rumored Cavs hires. I don't like the idea of Larry Brown as team president. It's been discussed before how he doesn't show the traits, long term vision, or mentality necessary for that position. Milt Newton as GM? There are far better candidates out there with more experience and from better organizations.

So far Dan Gilbert has shown me nothing as owner and given me no reason to feel encouraged that he can make the right decisions to win a championship.
 
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Heres some things that Pacers fans had to say about Mike Brown leaving.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12272

Unfortunately, a guy like Mike Brown doesn't come along very often. Just as unfortunate, a guy like him deserves to be a head coach which is our loss. I do think it will be felt within the team structure. It will be interesting to see who we get. Hmm - Mark Jackson here and Reggie replacing him on TV????

I'm not going to cry over this. In fact, I take it as a point of pride for our organization, just as I took it as a point of pride when Rick went to the Pistons.

We can get another assistant. In fact, I can think of a skinny 39 year old recent retiree that could foot the bill.

Mike Brown deserves to be a head coach definately.But he deserves a better team then the Cavs.The Pacers coaching staff won't be the same.

Good for him. He will be missed by the Pacers obviously, but he deserves to be a head coach. Sucks its in the same division though.
 
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It will be interesting to see what assistants are brought in. It would be wise to have some experienced guys brought in with Brown, as it is a big jump from assistant.

Is Malone and Natt still contracted?
 
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Natt and Malone both have a year left, but will be given permission look for jobs elsewhere if they wish to do so.
 
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A person close to LeBron James said the Cavaliers' star thinks highly of Mike Brown and his reputation for being a defensive coach.

Winner of an NBA championship ring in 2003 as an assistant with the San Antonio Spurs and Pacers coach Rick Carlisle's top assistant the past two seasons, Mike Brown fits Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert's requirement that his next coach come from a ``highly successful organization.''

But the process goes against Gilbert's announced plan to hire a general manager before settling on a coach to ensure they would have a working relationship. Mike Brown and Morway are close, but Mike Brown and Larry Brown only have loose ties from their past.

Mike Brown, who at 35 would become the second-youngest head coach in the NBA, formally interviewed with the Cavalers last Tuesday in Detroit and impressed Gilbert and several fellow owners. Known to like young up-and-comers, it is believed that Gilbert was impressed with Brown's personality and his attention to defense, which is a top priority to Gilbert.

It is believed that he beat out Memphis Grizzlies assistant Eric Musselman for the job.

``He's a good X and O coach, but he's a good people person, too,'' said Cavaliers guard Ira Newble, who was with Mike Brown in 2000-01 when both were in San Antonio. ``He's a good man, and he knows the game. He knows how to coach. If you look around the league, defense wins championships and Mike knows defense.''

Mike Brown is expected to get a three- or four-year contract worth about $2-$3 million per season.

``If he does get the job, it reflects not only the job he has done for us, but also, how much he's respected around the league,'' Carlisle told the Indianapolis Star. ``Based on the past three years, he showed he's ready to become a head coach.''

Newton has been with the Wizards for two seasons and was a player on Larry Brown's 1998 national championship team at Kansas. He is part of the front office that helped get the Wizards to their first playoff appearance since 1997.

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/11765432.htm
 
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Karma said:
It will be interesting to see what assistants are brought in. It would be wise to have some experienced guys brought in with Brown, as it is a big jump from assistant.

Is Malone and Natt still contracted?


• Look for Cavaliers assistant coach Kenny Natt to be considered as a replacement for Mike Brown on Rick Carlisle's bench in Indiana. Natt and former interim coach Brendan Malone each have a year left on their contracts, but the Cavaliers would surely grant him permission to move.

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/11765324.htm

Theres your answer to that.
 
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Mike Brown is expected to be announced at a Gund Arena press conference sometime this week. He does not have the familiar name or head coaching experience of many of the candidates the Cavs interviewed, such as Flip Saunders or Phil Jackson. But Brown's tenure under coaches like Gregg Popovich, Rick Carlisle and Bernie Bickerstaff proved valuable.

Miami assistant coach Ron Rothstein was an assistant in Indiana last year with Brown. Rothstein was impressed.

"I have the utmost respect for this guy and the Cavaliers couldn't have done any better," said Rothstein, a former Cavs assistant coach. "Mike's strengths are his knowledge of the game, his worth ethic and his relationship with people. His age is irrelevant. He's got the whole package.

"He knows what he's doing, he works extremely hard and he has a great personality in working with people. It was just a matter of time before he became a head coach."

Mike Brown would become the second-youngest head coach in the NBA, behind New Jersey's 34-year-old Lawrence Frank. The Cavs apparently need more time to fill the positions of president and general manager. According to league sources, if Milton Newton, Washington's director of player personnel, is named Cavs GM, then Brown will become the Cavs' president. Newton played for Brown at Kansas.

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

bwright@plaind.com, 216-999-6136

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/111744542537731.xml&coll=2
 
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NarlCavs said:
I'm not overly excited about the Mike Brown hire. I had thought that the Cavs had now reached a level where they could hire a proven winner and we would know exactly what we were getting. Mike Brown is a risk. No one really knows how he'll be as a head coach. I was expecting a proven commodity rather than an unknown risk who we just have to hope works out.

Good call NarlCavs. I can't believe they're going to throw this unknown assistant into the fire with no management infrastructure to back him up. I mean, it's great he has a good reputation and everything, but so did the last 3 coaches we hired. Throwing him in with no GM or team president is just setting him up to fail. Sure I'll support The Immortal Mike Brown because he's our coach. But fans and players have crapped out on more reputable coaches in Paul Silas and John Lucas, I just don't see anything long-term by this move. I mean, who here can even say they heard of this guy a month ago? This is Randy Wittman all over again, and a total disappoinment after proven commodities like Phil Jackson, Flip Saunders, PJ Carlsimo, Nate McMillan and Rick Adelman were available. :thumbdown

I have to say I supported Silas, Keith Smart, Lucas and Wittman right up until their ends, but this move makes way less sense than any of them ever did. It would be a little different if we had strong team management and some real team direction but the fact is we're stripped down to 2 people now, Dan Gilbert and Lebron James. That's the whole franchise right there. Z will not see the playoffs with this team again, by the time they get back he'll be retired. Really, it is a hell of a way to start a $375 million investement.
 

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