I'mWithDan
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Yes, for sure. He needs a lot of work in a lot of areas, but you specifically said that his defense puts limits on his ceiling.
We have nowhere near enough information to start making claims about his ceiling. It’s still possible that he could bust and never improve all that much, or he could be the next Dipo/Westbrook. It’s WAY too early to tell.
So far, tho, we are seeing more positives than negatives, I think.
I agree with this. I also use BBREF to check how I keep rookie seasons in perspective.....as we all tend to have unrealistic expectations.....especially exiting a window of championship basketball. It's (BBREF) a nice bench mark to see how he grades out with his peers as the season presses forward.
Currently, he's 16% of the way through his rookie season.....in 26 minutes, he's putting up:
12 PPG, 2.6 REB, 2.3 AST, shooting 42.5% from the floor.
Since 2000, qualifying rookie guards who hit those marks (12/2/2/42%):
Jason Richardson
Dwayne Wade
Chris Paul
Brandon Roy
OJ Mayo
Eric Gordon
Derrick Rose
Darren Collison
Steph Curry
Damian Lillard
Devin Booker
Donnovan Mitchell
I mean......pretty decent list to be on. I have no idea if he develops in to someone as good as any of those guys but expectations just seem so unrealistic for him.
He also has put up really nice numbers in his small sample size as a starter (3 games):
17 PPG, 3.7 REB, 2.7 AST, 45.8% from the field.
It's encouraging that his PER 36 scoring rate has translated to that increased minutes load (it's even a tick above).
Collin is performing really well for a rookie NBA guard....but I think most judge him on a curve vs. established vets at the position. He's only 19....he's hardly what he will be 2, 3, 4, 5 years from now.