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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 17 10.5%
  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 19 11.7%
  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 19.1%
  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 40 24.7%
  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.6%
  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 12.3%
  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 11 6.8%
  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.2%
  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 8.0%

  • Total voters
    162
I think this season it became apparent, that until the Cavs get someone tall that can run the plays (last few words said in a mocking, airquote way), that Sexland is the way until it isn't. Garland has emerged this season as being the only guard on the team that can set up the team for better shots and it shows. Ideally, a Shaun Livingston-type would allow Sexland to be separated against several line ups.

I think that should have been the plan after last season. I don't knock Koby for the Garland pick as much as the Okoro pick. Koby could have drafted Haliburton and ultimately secured the backcourt of the future between Sexton, Garland, and Haliburton. One might have had to be traded to make the team better but that seems like the path we are on with Sexton and Garland right now.

Okoro's fitment into this team is just a head scratcher. If he is a SF, it makes the team that much more undersized. If he is a SG and will be paired with Sexton or Garland in the future, you now have a SG that can't handle the ball or run the offense at all. We basically have a player that is a defensive specialist where traditionally alot of scoring comes from, that hurts flexibility and roster building.

I think drafting purely BPA is a flawed strategy, you have to either create flexibility in the roster or have a vision of what you want to ultimately make the team. Koby's strategy seems too much of a just put together mismatch pieces and see where it goes.
 
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Guess I should correct that. The 30% of games he's missed so far in the past 3 years going back to college. He's played 92 games out of 134 in 3 years. A different injury each time. Until he stays healthy for more than a month at a time, he's an injury liability.

Wondering if you, arbitrarily, added the college career of Kyrie to concerns about him, too? Or, why didn't we add the HS career, as well? He's missed about 15 games into his second season. No one will confuse him with Tristan Thompson or Cal Ripken, but its hardly anything to write home about yet...
 
Wondering if you, arbitrarily, added the college career of Kyrie to concerns about him, too? Or, why didn't we add the HS career, as well? He's missed about 15 games into his second season. No one will confuse him with Tristan Thompson or Cal Ripken, but its hardly anything to write home about yet...
I absolutely was concerned about Kyrie's durability before we drafted him. And he's proven to be an injury liability throughout his career.
 
^ people tend to forget kyrie was injured in the finals and used his injured knee as trade leverage 2 years after. Even in brooklyn he makes excuses to not be on the floor. Kyrie is amazing, but he is a very good sidekick, not someone you build around with. His time in boston just proves that.
 
I think that should have been the plan after last season. I don't knock Koby for the Garland pick as much as the Okoro pick. Koby could have drafted Haliburton and ultimately secured the backcourt of the future between Sexton, Garland, and Haliburton. One might have had to be traded to make the team better but that seems like the path we are on with Sexton and Garland right now.

Okoro's fitment into this team is just a head scratcher. If he is a SF, it makes the team that much more undersized. If he is a SG and will be paired with Sexton or Garland in the future, you now have a SG that can't handle the ball or run the offense at all. We basically have a player that is a defensive specialist where traditionally alot of scoring comes from, that hurts flexibility and roster building.

I think drafting purely BPA is a flawed strategy, you have to either create flexibility in the roster or have a vision of what you want to ultimately make the team. Koby's strategy seems too much of a just put together mismatch pieces and see where it goes.
It is early yet.

But yes, if Okoro never becomes at least a JR Smith in his prime type player the whiff on a high lotto pick like this will be detrimental to Altman's legacy.
 
As Garland continues to physically mature his body should continue to adapt to the beating a player takes over the course of the season. What did he put on last year, 10-15lbs? I suspect another 5 plus pounds of muscle this year. Hes a keeper, definitely excited for his future in CLE.
 
Garland in my opinion is what you call a morning glory looks great in practice and in the game but when push comes against shove he wilts in the evening sun there are a lot of players like that the one's that are great overcome that Sexton on the other hand looks like a player who give it all he has but when the going gets tough he puts it in another gear. if Garland is that kind of player he should start to show it .
 
I get what you're saying in that incredible run-on sentence, and believe that killer instinct you describe comes with confidence. That'll develop with experience. Which will come with time. Or, maybe he'll wilt under pressure and never amount to nothing more than a gym class hero, like me.
 
He's got 35 more games this season. He has yet to play a single game with Nance, Love, Allen and Sexton all healthy at the same time. Let's see what he does with it. He's had a shoulder injury (due to hard contact) and a groin injury (non-contact). If he can stay healthy for the last 35 games we should get a real good idea of what kind of player he's going to be.
 
Very impressive box score from Darius tonight. He physically looks very good right now. Definitely in shape- No baby fat left.

There are still aspects of his game I’m not a big fan of. Needs to become a better passer to the perimeter Especially when driving. Needs to become better at the rim instead of settling for weird floaters. But the stroke is legit. The point guard feel for the game is legit.
 

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