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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 18 11.0%
  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 19 11.7%
  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 19.0%
  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 40 24.5%
  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.5%
  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 12.3%
  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 11 6.7%
  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.1%
  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 8.0%

  • Total voters
    163
FWIW, Chris Fedor has Garland third in his "most improved" vote for the NBA post-season awards. Julius Randle of the Knicks was first.

After the All-Star break Garland shot 46.3% from the field and 40.4% on 3's, both numbers up about 2% from the first half. His rebounds, assists, and steals were also higher in the second half and his personal fouls were lower. Turnovers were up from 2.9 to 3.2 per game - the only area where he did not improve in the second half.

In his final month of April (he was hurt the first game of May) he averaged 20.5 ppg on 48% shooting and 7.3 assists. That was how he finished the season.

If 20 points and 7.3 assists on 48% from the field and 40% on 3's is where he starts next season as a 21-year-old, I don't think anyone will be talking about unloading him.
 
Sexton played in all the games hurt or not lets face the truth if Lebron business partner was Sexton agent he would not get any flax on this board .
 
Sexton played in all the games hurt or not lets face the truth if Lebron business partner was Sexton agent he would not get any flax on this board .

Considering most players signed by lebrons friends got outrageous contracts here I don’t think anybody here sees that as a positive
 
FWIW, Chris Fedor has Garland third in his "most improved" vote for the NBA post-season awards. Julius Randle of the Knicks was first.

After the All-Star break Garland shot 46.3% from the field and 40.4% on 3's, both numbers up about 2% from the first half. His rebounds, assists, and steals were also higher in the second half and his personal fouls were lower. Turnovers were up from 2.9 to 3.2 per game - the only area where he did not improve in the second half.

In his final month of April (he was hurt the first game of May) he averaged 20.5 ppg on 48% shooting and 7.3 assists. That was how he finished the season.

If 20 points and 7.3 assists on 48% from the field and 40% on 3's is where he starts next season as a 21-year-old, I don't think anyone will be talking about unloading him.

Julius Randle should win most improved and make the MVP ballot. He had an incredible year.

Who was 2nd ahead of Garland. Its hard imo to vote any 2nd year player most improved after the weird season they had last year.
 
Welcome aboard my brother. And where the hell you been? :chuckle:
I'm in and out. Watching the games and seriously rehabbing my patellar tendon .I'm not where I want to be. I've had some serious injuries; both achilles ..but this one may top all that.
I often am in here but all the losing just makes me hedge my comments . I want to see what the Cavs next moves are .
 
The problem I have is not having the release to be confident in taking enough threes in contested situations but I think the reason for it is the % is crap compared to wide open where he shoots a nice 42% vs Sextons 46%
Sexton shooting 26% from deep with a defender within 2-4 feet although not a good % is the highest % on the team
vs 21% for Garland but neither take many at all in that situation.
They really need to draft a elite scorer or one with the potential to be one even with a defender in their face.
 
Sexton shooting 26% from deep with a defender within 2-4 feet although not a good % is the highest % on the team
vs 21% for Garland but neither take many at all in that situation.
They really need to draft a elite scorer or one with the potential to be one even with a defender in their face.
When Garland has a defender in front of him he has to increase the launch angle of his shots to get it over the defender which causes him to miss most of the time. He needs more space than taller players to get his shot off.

It would help if he found ways to either get this shot off quicker or create more space so he can shoot it with the optimal angle.
 
When Garland has a defender in front of him he has to increase the launch angle of his shots to get it over the defender which causes him to miss most of the time. He needs more space than taller players to get his shot off.

It would help if he found ways to either get this shot off quicker or create more space so he can shoot it with the optimal angle.
Yeah the launch angle is not gonna happen with anything more than mild success. He has the handles to create some space but being the release that it is seems to need more space than the elite shooters at the same height to have a decent % enough to be confident in the shot and that includes the coaches not having it in their plans for him because of it although he could start mimicking the Trae and Harden flop game. I think with Sexton getting so much defensive attention his shooting attempts from deep also decreased after the Nets games and even more the groin. I think it just proves how much more of a 1st option they need somewhere on the floor besides Sexton trying to do it all with no healthy Love and a couple lob catchers.
I would think Kuminga and Mobley have the best chance of becoming reliable mid range and paint scorers with a defender within 2' but neither has a reliable spacing ability right now so it's a struggle.
Cade has that advantage as a shooter from deep already which is what makes him intriguing but his lack of a elite first step means he will always be shooting contested shots and is probably a Robin not a Batman.
Suggs can pull up with a defender in his grill and hit a shot with a high release I have seen Green create just enough cushion and nail somewhat contested fades etc both would help but it then takes away from what they already are building.
I just want to see somebody besides Sexton and Garland capable of drawing multiple defenders to open up the lanes and the open looks because Okoro and Allen and gonna be that guy anytime soon.
 
When Garland has a defender in front of him he has to increase the launch angle of his shots to get it over the defender which causes him to miss most of the time. He needs more space than taller players to get his shot off.

It would help if he found ways to either get this shot off quicker or create more space so he can shoot it with the optimal angle.

Please come up with a different term than launch angle, i hear it enough with baseball, lol.

PS..You are 100% correct in my opinion.
 
Please come up with a different term than launch angle, i hear it enough with baseball, lol.

PS..You are 100% correct in my opinion.
I guess someone could force him to listen to the clock in his head and react accordingly.
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