I couldn't reply further earlier; sorry if that came across as rude (@The Oi )Well, if true, I appreciated it nonetheless!
Let me simplify what I was saying.
No one knows for sure if BBT or The Bible (or any other concept of origin) is right.
Whichever path you "believe" in is based on non empirical data.
Yeah, your previous couple of post in this thread came off very condescending, at least to myself, especially regarding the Big Bang Cosmology. I have a feeling that post in particular was the reason for KevinLoveFan’s post defending her religious belief. Your post came across very dismissive of faith. I’m glad you came back and clarified that you simply meant to explain your view because you tend to give us a lot of great scientific facts and data.I couldn't reply further earlier; sorry if that came across as rude (@The Oi )
I'm not committed to things as a certainty. I try to present evidence that suggests something is the case. I can never claim that any particular explanation is confirmed with 100% certainty; no one can. The laws of science are consistently reliable. Science is based on explanations being open to modification due to new evidence. The models that science offers are amenable to testing and revision. That way, when we find further information, we modify what the scientific model is.
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That's not true. You seem to be equating faith in the Big Bang theory and faith in God as being on equal/opposite sides of the equation. The evidence I hear for God is visions, dreams, claims for divine visitation/revelation and faith. The evidence for the Big Bang results from carefully taken measurements of natural forces in the real world. The model is the result of math and analysis to address the question, "what is the explanation for the origin the universe?" It was a model that made testable predictions. Then scientists built the Hubble telescope and other instruments, which allowed us to measure the microwave background radiation, confirming that the model was indeed accurate.
Big Bang: Everything you need to know about the most accepted cosmological model
The Big Bang Theory is one of the most accepted hypotheses for the birth of the universe because there are many observations that prove it right.interestingengineering.com
All this back-and-forth misses the more significant point. Not believing in Big Bang cosmology as an explanation for the origins of our universe does nothing to bring you closer to the existence of a God. We can only look after the Planck time, which is a fraction of a second beyond the event. So what lies before the Planck time is an unknown, but you can't claim and conclude that the best explanation is God.
Well said.Yeah, your previous couple of post in this thread came off very condescending, at least to myself, especially regarding the Big Bang Cosmology. I have a feeling that post in particular was the reason for KevinLoveFan’s post defending her religious belief. Your post came across very dismissive of faith. I’m glad you came back and clarified that you simply meant to explain your view because you tend to give us a lot of great scientific facts and data.
I think most of us can agree that we hate to be preached to, one way or the other. As much as I dislike someone forcing their religious views on me, I just as much despise when people feel the need to tear down anyone’s personal faith when unprovoked. It’s one think if they are trying to make you see ‘their light,’ but it’s entirely something else if someone asked another person their opinion and they are admonished for giving it.
If you follow the Biblical narrative, you still have The Anti-Christ to come before Armageddon.I can’t tell if this thread is evolving, or if it is drifting off course. Are we now discussing Christianity and religion in general? Or are we just talking about the existence of god? Because honestly, I’m enjoying all the different ideas people have for what God means to them individually.
So far, I think the most interesting opinion, and I apologize for not remembering who wrote it, was the one believing we would come to see a physical manifestation sometime in the future of someone, or something, that we will consider to be God. I find that fascinating and have never thought to look at God that way. He/she/it may be able to capture the belief of those with faith yet most likely be able to be explained by science.
I knew people who didn't believe in God but wouldn't step on cracks on the sidewalk, sparing their poor Mother's backs, lol.Well said.
People’s beliefs on god(s) tend to be deeply held for a variety of different reasons.
I have never believed for certain that there was one/any, but I have always been interested in learning about other people’s beliefs and their experiences with religion.
For that reason, I’ve never felt comfortable shooting faithful people down solely for their beliefs.
Funny you should mention that. There are A LOT of non-religious people like myself that will do superstitious things while watching sports so as not to jinx the team. I remember a watching a Cavs game that I had DVR’d several years ago in which I refused to watch it in real time because when I did, they would fall behind, but if I kept rewinding it in 2 minute increments and fast forwarded through the commercials they would keep scoring. Every time I caught up to real time, I paused the game for 2 minutes. I’m the reason they won that game.I knew people who didn't believe in God but wouldn't step on cracks on the sidewalk, sparing their poor Mother's backs, lol.
We're a weird species.
That’s funny. For a while I was convinced if we DVRed the start of game and didn’t start watching with full focus on the game from the beginning while it was happening, we would lose. But or we were ready to watch when the game started, we would win.Funny you should mention that. There are A LOT of non-religious people like myself that will do superstitious things while watching sports so as not to jinx the team. I remember a watching a Cavs game that I had DVR’d several years ago in which I refused to watch it in real time because when I did, they would fall behind, but if I kept rewinding it in 2 minute increments and fast forwarded through the commercials they would keep scoring. Every time I caught up to real time, I paused the game for 2 minutes. I’m the reason they won that game.
I have issues.