Dylan “Breaking” Windler is a Laker. How much help does LeBron need!?

[rastamon87]

Dylan Windler survived

Future Cavs starting SF, just as Beilein envisioned

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

Dylan Windler survived

Maybe, but was probably injured by the trade.

 

[B Mac]

On August 24th it was shared that the Cavs and Jazz were talking, and the deal was Sexton, Okoro, and Windler plus 2-3 firsts. I really thought Dylan was going to be on his way to Utah.

We sorely could use his shooting, but I just can’t fathom him ever being a productive player at this point.

 

[Sebastian]

On August 24th it was shared that the Cavs and Jazz were talking, and the deal was Sexton, Okoro, and Windler plus 2-3 firsts. I really thought Dylan was going to be on his way to Utah.

We sorely could use his shooting, but I just can’t fathom him ever being a productive player at this point.

If that was the deal I might have died from dehydration from ejaculating so much.

Lauri would be such a great fit at SF with Mitchell at SG.

The spacing and size would have been perfect.

 

[catfish]

If that was the deal I might have died from dehydration from ejaculating so much.

Lauri would be such a great fit at SF with Mitchell at SG.

The spacing and size would have been perfect.

Would that have worked cap wise?

 

[Sebastian]

Would that have worked cap wise?

They would have had to send out Caris I think.

Which, as much as I like him, I would have done 10/10 times to keep Lauri.

 

[catfish]

We now have multiple ball handlers/creaters which is what you need in todays NBA- we really just need a 3 and D guy who we probably can get next summer if not before.

 

[cliffdawg]

Just out of Curiosity why can’t he be our Joe Engles , just seeing his stats the first hand full of years in the league, very underwhelming and that’s after playing overseas for a few years…..

 

[Randolphkeys]

Said it before and I'll say it again- Doug McDermott for Cedi, Windler and a 2nd rounder.

 

[Cavatt]

Said it before and I'll say it again- Doug McDermott for Cedi, Windler and a 2nd rounder.

I sort of like this, but how much better a defender is McBuckets compared to Cedi? I really don't know.

I have to say, Cedi hit so many shots last year. When he played with a primary creator he was very good. Put the ball in his hands and not so good.

I think he'd play really well with the starters, but if you could convince me Doug was a better team defender, I'd be all in on your plan.

If I had to say what McBuckets defensive style is, it would be heavy feet that knows where he is supposed to be, but has very little ability to stay with guards.

 

[cliffdawg]

Said it before and I'll say it again- Doug McDermott for Cedi, Windler and a 2nd rounder.

I like your ideal, but could a no hesitation Wade give you that, at McDermott stage of his career, while giving you better Defense and Rebounding…….

 

[Randolphkeys]

I sort of like this, but how much better a defender is McBuckets compared to Cedi? I really don't know.

I have to say, Cedi hit so many shots last year. When he played with a primary creator he was very good. Put the ball in his hands and not so good.

I think he'd play really well with the starters, but if you could convince me Doug was a better team defender, I'd be all in on your plan.

If I had to say what McBuckets defensive style is, it would be heavy feet that knows where he is supposed to be, but has very little ability to stay with guards.

I suggest this trade assuming Okoro is the starting small forward and McBuckets is his backup. When the defense puts in a slower wing, Doug matches up with that guy as the small forward version of KLove.

 

[1B4IGO]

It’s a shame that Windler hasn’t been able to stay healthy and prove his draft position. If somehow he could become what Koby was hoping for.

 

[adam81king]

Said it before and I'll say it again- Doug McDermott for Cedi, Windler and a 2nd rounder.

In one of the other threads i suggested Levert for McBuckets and Jordan Hall (not sure how trading 2-ways happens). Similar reasoning.

 

[Lyuokdea]

I suggest this trade assuming Okoro is the starting small forward and McBuckets is his backup. When the defense puts in a slower wing, Doug matches up with that guy as the small forward version of KLove.

Before this trade -- maybe?

Now, I think this would be a terrible trade. McDermott is an unplayably bad defender.

RAPTOR has him as the worst defender (over 1000 minutes) in the league last year -- and it wasn't even close. -4.5 Defensive RAPTOR, and the next closest player is -3.8 (and there are only 5 players worse than -3).

And it's not an anomaly either - last 4 seasons, he's never been better than -2. Only Colin Sexton and Trae Young have managed to post a worse defensive score over those 4 seasons. But the difference is that McDermott (except for last year) has been doing this primarily as a backup who has not had to go against elite offensive talent.

D-LEBRON likes him a little more -- (but still the 4th worst defensive SF last year -- though they confusingly mark him as a PF).

The problem with him being the "SF version of Kevin Love" is that he is much much worse than Kevin Love -- probably better just to put Love out there at SF -- he'll get toasted just as bad, but will at least give you some rebounding.

To Add: "Before this trade" this made a little more sense, because our offense could get really really bad when the ball wasn't moving, and McDermott could at least work with Garland to give you a reasonable shot.

Now we have two players who have reasonably high efficiency on ISOs off the dribble -- our offensive "floor" per position has increased dramatically now that DM will be taking the last minute 1 on 5 circus shots instead of Caris Lavert... I think that decreases the need for a completely one-dimensional offensive player like McDermott, and means that our 3&D target should lean more towards D than it has in the past.