Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

[catfish]

Monbleys advanced jump shot after 18 NBA games is absolutely incredible. I didn’t even know if he would be ready to actually shoot threes in real games in year 1. I liked his chances long term because he had decent fork and touch and shot 30% from a shorter college line and 70% from the line.

But we are 18 games in and he is shooting nearly 35% from 3 on 2 attempts a game. He is shooting 78% from the FT line.

He’s basically averaging 15/8/3. Only 2 turnovers.

Defensively he’s averaging 2 blocks and 1 steal per game.

His on/off numbers are insane for anyone let alone a rookie.

He is never a ball stopper, he always operates well within any offensive or defensive scheme. He can literally guard 1-5. He can shut any player in the leagues water off individually.

We are 12-6 with him on the court. I guarantee we win at least 1, probably 2 of the 4 games we lost while he was out.

And just back to his shooting to end this post….in the third quarter he came out looking for his shot…he came out and swished a corner 3, where he has an unblockable high release. Then a beautiful turnaround after a little shake and bake like Kobe and KG used to do on their turn around jumpers…then he cans another 3 from the top of the key with no hesitation. His shooting form was machine-like. He raised up and squared his body with his right elbow tucked in neatly and a slight flick of the wrist on the release. Swish. Swish. Swish. The body control and muscle memory that went into those three consecutive shots was amazing. He is clearly, clearly working hard on his jumper and the results are already showing. The pace at which Mobley improves is breathtaking. He absorbs and processes information so quickly…he picks up new things so quickly…but it’s clear to me that Evan Mobley is going to improve leaps and bounds every single year. Even within each year. That is part of why he is truly a generational talent. I believe he is going to be a very high level shooter long term. Like I see him already on a trajectory to become a high volume knockdown 3 point shooter-at least relatively compared to similar players at his position.

I see the game to game improvement in all kinds of facets. I saw him last night competing HARD and securing defensive rebounds with a vigor I haven’t always seen from him. He was ripping tough rebounds down in traffic and making sure to grab the ball with both hands. I think defensive rebounding is something the Cavs have prioritized with him a little more in practice recently.

Mobley basically has no weaknesses. And anything that is even ever considered a weakness is something he prioritizes and changes quickly.

Special. Special. Special.

I think his handle could improve and once in a while he floats a little on D. His offense seems to come and go within a particular game. However, I am the same poster who weeks ago noted I believe in this thread that KG should be this player's floor.

 

[catfish]

Any more "What should we trade for Mobley" threads on the Rockets fan forums...?

In the Raptors forum they are concocting crazy trades to try to steal him.-

 

[Futuredome]

Since Green went down the Rockets are rolling.

 

[Zeus69]

In the Raptors forum they are concocting crazy trades to try to steal him.-

I mean, even if we are playing this game, what WOULD it take for the Cavs to consider trading Mobley?

 

[rastamon87]

Duncans bacl to the basket game was elite from day 1. Footwork up there with anyone including Hakeem. He was also a beast on defense. He didnt have Mobley's shot, and never had his agility to cover the guards, but more skilled? Footwork is a skill, and Mobely could be a top 10 player and never come close to Duncan level footwork.

I love the kid, but skilled could be allot of things.

But look what we have to do, Duncan, KG, Hakeem. These are the names we have to use when comparing the kid. I think he ends up as Bosh on offense and no one else like him on defense. Think about that, defense is the best part of his game yet his weaker side will be just as good as a HOFer's best side, lol

Agree, from what I remember you could argue TD was more impactful than David Robinson his rookie year (he was not yet at the downaide of his career then)…. Mobley can shoot the 3 and more mobile but Duncan was a monster 2-way player his rookie year… I’ll say Duncan is definitely better his rookie year, and that’s not a disrespect to Mobley, Tim was just unbelievably good (was more mature also physically because he spent 4 years in college) he was already fighting toe to toe to Shaq his rookie year..

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

I mean, even if we are playing this game, what WOULD it take for the Cavs to consider trading Mobley?

He is effectively untradeable because no one can give you back the items that would likely make you better in the long run. Even if the rules allowed someone to trade you their next 10 first round picks, that team would now have Mobley so the picks are not going to be high enough to find an equivalent. You would take Giannis for him but Milwaukee isn't doing that.

 

[Dr No]

I love Mobley and I can't think of anyone I would trade him for in the last few drafts. But, not to sound like a Debbie Downer - he's a way from being compared to the legends at this point. Right now, he's not even the best player on his own team (if you doubt this, compare his stats to Allen). He's also been put into a very good situation for a top 3 pick - He's not having to carry a team from day 1 like most guys picked where he was picked - make him play with the mess in Detroit, Houston, or OKC and he probably doesn't look as good right now. Don't get me wrong - I think he's a shoe-in all-star if he stays healthy. I think he has the potential to be a hall of famer one day. He's the coveted cornerstone piece you can build a franchise around. However, we forget that even a borderline legend like David Robinson was bigger, stronger, and far more explosive than Mobley will ever be (and had a very nice shot). Guys like him didn't just effect games, they took them over, and often against other all stars for weeks and months at a time. And when you start talking about Hakeem & Duncan - they are two of the best to ever do it - everything has to come together for a lot of years for him to go to those heights. Not saying he can't do it, but its a minuscule club for a reason.

 

[ShawnKempIsMyDad]

I mean, even if we are playing this game, what WOULD it take for the Cavs to consider trading Mobley?

A great deal, and the Raptors don't have the assets.

 

[Lee]

Agree, from what I remember you could argue TD was more impactful than David Robinson his rookie year (he was not yet at the downaide of his career then)…. Mobley can shoot the 3 and more mobile but Duncan was a monster 2-way player his rookie year… I’ll say Duncan is definitely better his rookie year, and that’s not a disrespect to Mobley, Tim was just unbelievably good (was more mature also physically because he spent 4 years in college) he was already fighting toe to toe to Shaq his rookie year..

The thing we have to remember is the names that come up when talking about rookie Mobley are all HOFers. And Mobley is doing it after only 1 year of college ball vs most had 3 or 4.

IS Mobley going to be as good as Duncan? I dont know, that is a tall order, 5 time champion, top 10 all time on most people's list. But that is the typ eof guy you need to find to compare the impact Mobley has as a rookie. Amazing.

And for the record there is no one player to fully compare Mobley too. While I think he has a very Chris Bosh level offensive game, Mobley as a rookie is far better than Bosh ever was defensively already, and that dude just made the Hall.

I am not sure I would trade Mobley for any player in the league right now when you put the some of all of his parts. Go ahead, try and see who we would trade for straight up. Age, defense, offense, great kid, there really isnt a player out there, and I never say things like that.

 

[Alec]

I mean, even if we are playing this game, what WOULD it take for the Cavs to consider trading Mobley?

To trade him today? It’s probably not possible to put together such an offer. It would have to be player heavy because the draft picks you’re getting are going to be late firsts. He is arguably the most valuable asset in the league because he’s under team control for so long.

Edit: what Rob said

 

[Real Deal]

Someone show this clip to Chuck

 

[Lee]

I mean, even if we are playing this game, what WOULD it take for the Cavs to consider trading Mobley?

I dont think there is a player or package in the league you can make for Mobley.

What would it take to get Duncan or Hakeem in their rookie year? Lebron as a rookie was untradeable. I think we are there with a much better younger core.

 

[Dr No]

To trade him today? It’s probably not possible to put together such an offer. It would have to be player heavy because the draft picks you’re getting are going to be late firsts. He is arguably the most valuable asset in the league because he’s under team control for so long.

Edit: what Rob said

This is such a good point. Not only is he a great talent, but because we drafted him, we have control for a very long time.

 

[Alec]

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[CavsFaninNJ]

Mobley named Eastern Conference rookie of the month for October and November. So basically rookie of the year so far since the other ROY contenders are all in the east.

Evan Mobley Named Kia NBA Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month

CLEVELAND – The NBA announced today that Cleveland Cavaliers forward/center Evan Mobley has been named the Kia NBA Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month for games played in October/November.

www.nba.com