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Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

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Is Evan Mobley the Greatest Player of All Time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 39.0%
  • Yes

    Votes: 21 17.1%
  • Yes

    Votes: 7 5.7%
  • YAAASSS!!!

    Votes: 36 29.3%
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Went through the play-type clips for Mobley...


There are 33 blocks where the Cavs attain possession.
There are 4 blocks where the ball went out of bounds.
There are 7 blocks that were kept inbounds, but the other team retained possession.


Percentage of all Evan Mobley blocks:
Cavs attain possession: 75%
Ball out of bounds: 9%
Kept inbounds, but other team kept it: 16%

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A couple of more things...

Mobley has 6 blocks where he attains possession of the ball himself. That's 13% of all his blocks. He's more likely to do that than block the ball out of bounds.

For the ball going out of bounds, they were under the basket. One of them, the Cavs had a chance to corral the ball, but let it slip out of bounds.

On one of the balls that was kept inbounds, but the other team retained possession... Okoro had the ball, but his foot went barely out of bounds.
 
Went through the play-type clips for Mobley...


There are 33 blocks where the Cavs attain possession.
There are 4 blocks where the ball went out of bounds.
There are 7 blocks that were kept inbounds, but the other team retained possession.


Percentage of all Evan Mobley blocks:
Cavs attain possession: 75%
Ball out of bounds: 9%
Kept inbounds, but other team kept it: 16%

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A couple of more things...

Mobley has 6 blocks where he attains possession of the ball himself. That's 13% of all his blocks. He's more likely to do that than block the ball out of bounds.

For the ball going out of bounds, they were under the basket. One of them, the Cavs had a chance to corral the ball, but let it slip out of bounds.

On one of the balls that was kept inbounds, but the other team retained possession... Okoro had the ball, but his foot went barely out of bounds.
This is just an excellent, excellent post and it certainly confirms what weve been seeing with the eye test. It’s obviously something Mobley does consciously, which is just more proof he is on an entirely different level defensively than any 20 year old has any business being.
 
Went through the play-type clips for Mobley...


There are 33 blocks where the Cavs attain possession.
There are 4 blocks where the ball went out of bounds.
There are 7 blocks that were kept inbounds, but the other team retained possession.


Percentage of all Evan Mobley blocks:
Cavs attain possession: 75%
Ball out of bounds: 9%
Kept inbounds, but other team kept it: 16%

--------------------------
A couple of more things...

Mobley has 6 blocks where he attains possession of the ball himself. That's 13% of all his blocks. He's more likely to do that than block the ball out of bounds.

For the ball going out of bounds, they were under the basket. One of them, the Cavs had a chance to corral the ball, but let it slip out of bounds.

On one of the balls that was kept inbounds, but the other team retained possession... Okoro had the ball, but his foot went barely out of bounds.
Fantastic research, I'm sure it took you a while to sort through all of those clips.

So I was curious as to what the league average figures would look like. I think we would all assume that the team that blocked a shot retained possession less than 75% of the time, but I'd really love to know how much lower than 75% that number is.

After fumbling through Google (you know how sometimes you want to search for something but don't even know what the hell to type?) I came across this article that mined through blocked shot data for an entire season. If my reading comprehension is in tact, this analysis would have been for the 2014-15 season which, for the sake of context, was the first year of LeBron's return to Cleveland.

In the study, which seems to focus on the top 15 shot blockers that season, Serge Ibaka topped the list with 67% of his blocks resulting in his team obtaining possession, followed by Derrick Favors and DeAndre Jordan (66%), Anthony Davis (63%), and then Andrew Bogut and Tim Duncan (61%). Dwight Howard and Gorgui Dieng were at the bottom of the lost, with 45% and 46%, respectively.

It's an interesting read, as the purpose of the study was to analyze the overall impact of different blocked shots, and they introduce many other metrics as well.
 
This is just an excellent, excellent post and it certainly confirms what weve been seeing with the eye test. It’s obviously something Mobley does consciously, which is just more proof he is on an entirely different level defensively than any 20 year old has any business being.
Honestly? Not just for a 20 year old. That's heady for experienced players too.
 
Honestly? Not just for a 20 year old. That's heady for experienced players too.

I love when they ask Mobley about this stuff. The asked him about not fouling and keeping the ball in bounds. His answer is "That is what youa re supposed to do to help the team win" lol. Like other players don't want to do it that way!
 
Fantastic research, I'm sure it took you a while to sort through all of those clips.

So I was curious as to what the league average figures would look like. I think we would all assume that the team that blocked a shot retained possession less than 75% of the time, but I'd really love to know how much lower than 75% that number is.

After fumbling through Google (you know how sometimes you want to search for something but don't even know what the hell to type?) I came across this article that mined through blocked shot data for an entire season. If my reading comprehension is in tact, this analysis would have been for the 2014-15 season which, for the sake of context, was the first year of LeBron's return to Cleveland.

In the study, which seems to focus on the top 15 shot blockers that season, Serge Ibaka topped the list with 67% of his blocks resulting in his team obtaining possession, followed by Derrick Favors and DeAndre Jordan (66%), Anthony Davis (63%), and then Andrew Bogut and Tim Duncan (61%). Dwight Howard and Gorgui Dieng were at the bottom of the lost, with 45% and 46%, respectively.

It's an interesting read, as the purpose of the study was to analyze the overall impact of different blocked shots, and they introduce many other metrics as well.
Really appreciate that!

Great, great find! That's an excellently composed article on the topic.
I'm also curious about the frequency of these types of blocks and how Mobley compares around the league. Interesting stuff, for sure!

Edit:
Oh to add, it didn't take too long to watch the clips and it was a pure joy to behold. NBA.com has a feature where you can see clips of the play-by-play. They don't compile EVERYTHING, but was fortunate enough most of Mobley's blocks were accounted for. The rest, I found via timestamps. There was one block I didn't visually verify, but looking at the play-by-play, Cavs got possession. Can go back to check that one off. Also, I see that he has '43' counting total blocks, but I counted 44 in total. I may have made a mistake there.
 
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Just to tack on, that play-by-play feature is really awesome if anyone is interested. Sometimes I will make mental notes and go back to check the clip. Usually it's for something completely not value added like "lmao he looked ridiculous on that play" and not actually insightful information as presented above.
 
Evan Mobley is SO good that he could even get Tiger King out of the jail if they would be together.
 
This is just an excellent, excellent post and it certainly confirms what weve been seeing with the eye test. It’s obviously something Mobley does consciously, which is just more proof he is on an entirely different level defensively than any 20 year old has any business being.

20 year old?

Go find me any guy at any age in the NBA that averages 2 blocks a game and 75% of his blocks lead to a possession change.

I will wait. I doubt you can find any guy at any age.

Allot of the things Mobley does is amazing for his age and he will just get better, but this keeping the ball in bounds for a possession change after a block is best type of shit since Bill Russell type shit, at that is amazing at any age.
 
Evan Mobley is SO good that he could even get Tiger King out of the jail if they would be together.

Evan Mobley is so good, that one time after the 1st quarter Mobley held the opponent to -5 points.
 
I love when they ask Mobley about this stuff. The asked him about not fouling and keeping the ball in bounds. His answer is "That is what youa re supposed to do to help the team win" lol. Like other players don't want to do it that way!

Nothing about Mobley's game really resembles Duncan, they are different type of big men, but Mobley's temperament is 100% Duncan. I expect one of these times for the team doctor to check his pulse during a timeout just to make sure Mobley is still breathing, lol
 
Nothing about Mobley's game really resembles Duncan, they are different type of big men, but Mobley's temperament is 100% Duncan. I expect one of these times for the team doctor to check his pulse during a timeout just to make sure Mobley is still breathing, lol

Yeah you see it sometimes. Somebody with a really low resting heart rate that never panics and just methodically goes about their business.

I can sort of see how people thought he didn't love the game or wasn't super passionate. He has such a strange resting body. When they showed him on the bench in the 4th, I couldn't believe he had just played one of his more dominant games. He seemed perfectly calm and composed with a hint of a smile on his lips like he was waiting for the bus, but was going somewhere cool. Odd demeanor, but yeah just sort of can't tell what he is thinking like Duncan.

He said last night. "I just try to make the right decision when I have the ball. I think I am good at that." lol understatement
 
Am I crazy for not wanting him to gain a bunch of weight?

When I remember some of the great big men from history - I’m talking wayback in the day - some of them stayed thin and I think they were healthier for it. Obviously this locks him into PF rather than center long term. But I don’t know if I’ve seen strength be an issue for him other than guarding centers under the hoop. He has wiry strength already.

Just food for thought.
 

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