Game 13 - Cavs @ Pacers- Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:00pm EST

[Bob_The_Cat]

I'm ready to blow the team up 12 games into the season. Seriously. Mo, AP and Moon suck. And I just feel bad for Andy and Jamison. If this were a young team then it would be fine but it's a veteren team that just doesnt fit together anymore. I'm ready for some Terrence Williams, James Harden and Rodney Stuckey.

Yeah, I feel you. As others have said, the team is just regressing. Team defense is horrible. Seemingly can't make anything on the offensive end. However, if we can find some way to move Tawn, we won't be in horrible shape moving forward. We'll clear quite a bit of dead weight this offseason in terms of players (Moon, Jawad, and Parker) and about $7 mill in cap space. Obviously the albatross is Tawn's contract. Every game looks increasingly likely that we'll be drafting in the top 8. Hopefully they'll at least put forth an effort against Miami.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Yeah, I feel you. As others have said, the team is just regressing. Team defense is horrible. Seemingly can't make anything on the offensive end. However, if we can find some way to move Tawn, we won't be in horrible shape moving forward. We'll clear quite a bit of dead weight this offseason in terms of players (Moon, Jawad, and Parker) and about $7 mill in cap space. Obviously the albatross is Tawn's contract. Every game looks increasingly likely that we'll be drafting in the top 8. Hopefully they'll at least put forth an effort against Miami.

I don't think we're really regressing..

I do think we experienced some fools god though. We played a true cupcake first 10 games and lost to a couple of terrible teams(I know we beat Boston...but the emotion of that game is nearly impossible to replicate). Now we're playing quality NBA teams and they're beating us as they should.

We never were that good to begin with and I'm an idiot for buying into the homer hype and predicting 43 wins even though I was positive two weeks after LBJ left that we were headed for 25 wins.

 

[redscoon]

We can get embarrassed with Harris and Eyenga learning on the fly. I don't want to see Parker and Moon on this team at the first of the year.

 

[jim jim]

Note to Dan Gilbert.... I want my fucking money back..... I want my money back for every jersey I bought, for league pass I paid for to watch this team, and I want payment for pain and suffering...... This team is aweful, your product sucks... Go back to selling home loans to people who can't afford them.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

We can get embarrassed with Harris and Eyenga learning on the fly. I don't want to see Parker and Moon on this team at the first of the year.

I'd just buy Parker out at this point unless someone wants to throw us a 2nd rounder for him. His only place in the NBA is shooting threes for a contender for 18 minutes a game.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Note to Dan Gilbert.... I want my fucking money back..... I want my money back for every jersey I bought, for league pass I paid for to watch this team, and I want payment for pain and suffering...... This team is aweful, your product sucks... Go back to selling home loans to people who can't afford them.

Yeah, you should probably calm down.

 

[moohead]

http://realcavsfans.com/showthread.p...me-show-Thread

Postgame Show after the game tonight!

Moo

 

[Silky Smooth]

Note to Dan Gilbert.... I want my fucking money back..... I want my money back for every jersey I bought, for league pass I paid for to watch this team, and I want payment for pain and suffering...... This team is aweful, your product sucks... Go back to selling home loans to people who can't afford them.

I think you should just go.

 

[jim jim]

Yeah, you should probably calm down.

No everyone of us who support this team deserve better than this. Yea, Lebron leaving is not his fault, but to put a team that is not even competitive on the floor is a crime. I could chalk this up to this team having an off night, but that is not the case.. These clowns have lost any confidence they had, they have finally realized they lack the talent required to be on the floor with the other teams in this league. The starting lineup has 30 points right now. Not like the bench has been on the floor much of the game either. I am offended by this level of effort, and pathetic play.

 

[CPK]

I don't think we're really regressing..

I do think we experienced some fools god though. We played a true cupcake first 10 games and lost to a couple of terrible teams(I know we beat Boston...but the emotion of that game is nearly impossible to replicate). Now we're playing quality NBA teams and they're beating us as they should.

We never were that good to begin with and I'm an idiot for buying into the homer hype and predicting 43 wins even though I was positive two weeks after LBJ left that we were headed for 25 wins.

I was hardcore homer as well; I take solace in the fact that if we crash and burn we will be able to pick a great player in the top 3 range (hopefully 1 overall).

 

[jim jim]

Maybe I should add that we are down by more points than our starters have scored. How pathetic is that?

 

[jim jim]

And if it wasn't for Joey Grahm a former bench player, it would be worse.

 

[Damage]

I don't think we're really regressing..

I do think we experienced some fools god though. We played a true cupcake first 10 games and lost to a couple of terrible teams(I know we beat Boston...but the emotion of that game is nearly impossible to replicate). Now we're playing quality NBA teams and they're beating us as they should.

We never were that good to begin with and I'm an idiot for buying into the homer hype and predicting 43 wins even though I was positive two weeks after LBJ left that we were headed for 25 wins.

I think we are regressing, but you're viewpoint isn't wrong by any means. I just don't agree with it. One thing we can both agree on though: losing by 30 to the Pacers is really inexcusable and pathetic

 

[Silky Smooth]

No everyone of us who support this team deserve better than this. Yea, Lebron leaving is not his fault, but to put a team that is not even competitive on the floor is a crime. I could chalk this up to this team having an off night, but that is not the case.. These clowns have lost any confidence they had, they have finally realized they lack the talent required to be on the floor with the other teams in this league. The starting lineup has 30 points right now. Not like the bench has been on the floor much of the game either. I am offended by this level of effort, and pathetic play.

If you didn't have a feeling this was going to happen then you must of not watched this team over the years.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

No everyone of us who support this team deserve better than this. Yea, Lebron leaving is not his fault, but to put a team that is not even competitive on the floor is a crime. I could chalk this up to this team having an off night, but that is not the case.. These clowns have lost any confidence they had, they have finally realized they lack the talent required to be on the floor with the other teams in this league. The starting lineup has 30 points right now. Not like the bench has been on the floor much of the game either. I am offended by this level of effort, and pathetic play.

What do you want Gilbert to do? Cripple the franchise for half a decade and use all of our trade assets to put a team on the floor that might squeak out 44 games?

Chris Grant and the basketball people seem to have reigned Gilbert in a bit and are staying patient and smart in the way they want to rebuild this team.

It's the NBA. You have to take a few steps back before you can make any real surge forward. It's unfortunate but that's the way the league is.