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Grade the Browns 1st Round - 2018 NFL Draft

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Alec Zander said:
Elway knows his stuff. I’m concerned the Browns missed out on an opportunity to pair up an elite edge player with MG. Boundary corners are a huge premium but I don’t see Ward in that Jalen Ramsey vein. If Ward pans out as average, and Nelson and Chubb become perennial probowlers, that’s fucking rough.

Who knows with Mayfield.
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Evidently Elway was going to take Ward if Chubb was gone by then. I don't think Ward would have lasted to #12.

Chubb was elite, but in the grand scheme, grabbing Ward, the shut-down corner, and drafting both Mo Hurst and Landry at #33 and #35, provides the same great DL (deeper) while finally completing the secondary.

Also, I think they were definitely trying to move down and still grab Ward but it seems no team was keen enough on Allen or Rosen to pay the high price for #4. Buffalo gambled that Denver wasn't taking a QB and won.

As for Mayfield, I preferred Darnold or Rosen, but I think Baker's work ethic and accuracy, and purported photographic memory, gives him a good chance as the others to succeed. It may take him an extra year though.
 
I didn't like Mayfield before tonight.
I'm warming up to him. It's not that I "couldn't" see him as a successful pro qb, but I didn't see that "success" being with the Cleveland Browns (I saw it happening with the Bills, Jets though)

I regret not getting Darnold. He'll probably get the Jets to the playoffs and we won't hear the end of it.
I regret that we couldn't get Barkley or Chubb. I think Barkley could be the next big thing at RB, and Jim Brown's opinion is something I hold very highly.
I regret not trading down from 4 and being able to nab Ward there.

Now...does that mean I hate the picks? No...I mean, they're not who I -want-, but I can see their reasoning as to why they went. I mean, Ward was a monster at OSU, and there was clearly something that drew nfl front office guys to falling in love with Mayfield.

A "C""

Please make me eat my words and turn this into a "coldtake". That's all I ask, Browns.
 
However you feel about Mayfield as the number one pick, just remember that Buffalo traded up to grab Josh Allen when Rosen was still on the board.

We may be a shit franchise, but we're not the shittiest franchise.
 
I voted for a D grade. I like Ward fine but would have really preferred Chubb at four and a corner in the second round. Ultimately, though, this draft was always going to be about the quarterback selection and I just think the Browns did very poorly there.
 
Hindsight being 20/ 20, we now know that mayfield's was our number one all along and barkley was the Giants target at number two.

The following is not criticism of the choices, but more about what we might have done with perfect information.

That means we could have picked Barkley at number 1 and almost certainly had mayfield or darnold at number 4. If the giants chose a QB, then we might have gotten stuck with Rosen, but this was a low probability in reality, although we could not have known that. So I think a Mayfield Barkley draft would have been better than the Mayfield Ward draft (but not by a lot), and a Darnold Barkley draft would have been about even with a Mayfield Barkley..

I think there must be some truth in the Rosen red flags. He was my pick, but if three pro teams ( and really five of you consider both the Giants and the Colts could use a quarterback) take a pass, something is up..

I was also on the Chub train, in that I think he is likely to be a better nfl player than Ward. I watched a fair amount of Ward, and I was a fan of his heart and resilience but I did not feel he separated himself athletically from other good corners, and at times he struggled to cover good receivers on other teams. I think he made up for this with focus and technique and playing hard in crunch time, but in the NFL, he is going to have to cover elite speedsters on every play. This is an armchair hot take, and I am happy to just watch at how it pans..
 
I gave the draft an "F", the Browns once again tried to be the smartest people in the room. I am praying this works out but this literally could have set our franchise back 10 more years if not.

And those of you that refuse to compare Baker to Johnny. He is a short little QB with a bad attitude that played well in college. Midget QBs can work, but they are the exception not the rule. Majority of QBs are 6'2 and higher. Don't understand why the Browns stack their own cards against themselves.
 
Lyst said:
I gave the draft an "F", the Browns once again tried to be the smartest people in the room. I am praying this works out but this literally could have set our franchise back 10 more years if not.
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It's impossible to set a franchise that hasn't been good in twenty years back ten years. At worst, Mayfield will suck and we'll still be bad in two years and will have another high pick to use on a QB who will probably also fail.
 
Lyst said:
I gave the draft an "F", the Browns once again tried to be the smartest people in the room. I am praying this works out but this literally could have set our franchise back 10 more years if not.

And those of you that refuse to compare Baker to Johnny. He is a short little QB with a bad attitude that played well in college. Midget QBs can work, but they are the exception not the rule. Majority of QBs are 6'2 and higher. Don't understand why the Browns stack their own cards against themselves.
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“Majority” “exception to the rule” blah blah.

Usually QB’s under 6’2” don’t have the tools Mayfield has. He is the best pure prospect under that height since Brees.

The Browns took the guy who was the best player in college football.
 
Triplethreat said:
The Browns took the guy who was the best player in college football.
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If the NFL was just an extension of College I would say fine. It's not, players are bigger, faster, more skilled.

Its like saying Like Harangody was going to be the next Michael Jordan because of his insane college stats.

I'm sorry, but it is a whole different beast. Like I said I'm praying this works out but the cards are stacked against him.
 
Lyst said:
If the NFL was just an extension of College I would say fine. It's not, players are bigger, faster, more skilled.

Its like saying Like Harangody was going to be the next Michael Jordan because of his insane college stats.

I'm sorry, but it is a whole different beast. Like I said I'm praying this works out but the cards are stacked against him.
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Mayfield is missing one thing and it’s height.

How would you feel if he was LITERALLY one inch taller? You’d be touting him as one of the best QB prospects of the last few years.

Simply watch the kid play. He could give a fuck if someone’s bigger, stronger, faster. He’s going to pick you apart methodically.
 
Lyst said:
If the NFL was just an extension of College I would say fine. It's not, players are bigger, faster, more skilled.

Its like saying Like Harangody was going to be the next Michael Jordan because of his insane college stats.

I'm sorry, but it is a whole different beast. Like I said I'm praying this works out but the cards are stacked against him.
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That's just a terrible analogy, though, because no one thought Harangody was going to be anything other than a role-player at best, whereas Mayfield was a consensus first round QB pick. You don't need elite athleticism to be a great NFL QB, whereas you basically do to be an elite NBA player. Mayfield is by no means a perfect prospect, but he's clearly got the talent to succeed in the NFL. That doesn't mean he will, but the talent is there.
 
I voted B but it's somewhere between a B and a C for me. I thought Darnold and Rosen were better prospects and would have rather had them over Mayfield but I believe Mayfield has a significant chance at being good. Not what I would have done but I understand it and can get behind it.

Ward I liked a lot going in. He was my 2nd choice at #4 but I was all for Bradley Chubb. Having Chubb/Garrett and Ogbah in a rotation is devastating and could be the best pass rushing trio in the league, plus they are all young. If we take Chubb there, we have that going for us plus the pick of a number of good options at CB here in the top of the 2nd. By going Ward, we do not have that dominant edge rusher available, unless Landry's injury isn't a major problem and he's more than a situational pass rusher.

I am ok with the players they got, I just feel they didn't maximize the picks with how the draft unfolded.
 
If it means less boobie hijacking threads, A+
 
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