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Hell Freezes Over: Welcome Deshaun Watson

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I'm not at all surprised that Berry was all in.

Look, it's his job to win games, and guess what the Browns are going to do a lot in the next few years? And what does that entail for Andrew Berry? I don't know why anyone would be surprised that Andrew Berry would want Deshaun Watson. He's a top 5 NFL QB who is proven in the NFL, those NEVER come to market.

The NFL is a sleazy business. As Steve Keim put it,


If you cannot compartmentalize it, or if you want to think that somehow the Browns were different, I empathize. But...it's the business of the NFL.

The reality is that many teams were willing to move mountains for Watson. Whether he had chosen New Orleans, Atlanta, or us, there was going to be backlash.

The league is corrupt as it gets. I mean Dan Snyder still owns a team for chrissakes and he was damn near trafficking his own staff. The NFL is a bidness and Watson went to the highest bidder.
 
I don’t know what the right word is to describe it, but two of the few female owners (Dee Haslam and Gayle Benson) were involved in the pursuit of Watson..

Not saying that as in to justify or rail against any Watson acquisition, just something of note considering the allegations against Watson..

Are we SURE that Dee Haslam was on board with this? I sure ain’t. She’s big on 2nd chances but not sure about 23rd chances.

Gayle Benson also basically has no role in football decisions.
 
Are we SURE that Dee Haslam was on board with this? I sure ain’t. She’s big on 2nd chances but not sure about 23rd chances.

Gayle Benson also basically has no role in football decisions.
We are damn sure going to find out.

The Browns still haven't announced the transaction. I expect all of this to be addressed in their press release AND in a news conference.
 
We are damn sure going to find out.

The Browns still haven't announced the transaction. I expect all of this to be addressed in their press release AND in a news conference.

Pretty sure they have to lock in the Baker trade before they can officially announce Watson.
 
We are damn sure going to find out.

The Browns still haven't announced the transaction. I expect all of this to be addressed in their press release AND in a news conference.

Nah we won’t find out the truth at the press conference. We will get a PR laundered version of some half truths maybe. They’re probably doing focus groups on how and when to present it as we speak.
 
Will be interesting to see the sales numbers of Watson jerseys over the next year... first month he is here to the first game especially
 
The Browns will rack up W’s, playoff wins and maybe even a super bowl and no one will remember this, that’s just how it goes in pro sports. People tend to forgive more and more over time.

Not a peep about Big Ben on his farewell tour, just how great of a guy he was and a great leader and face of the Steelers.

If you don’t want to be a fan, feel free to leave, no one cares if you leave… if you want to stay, that’s your choice as well… no one cares. I’m not judging someone on whether they want to support the Browns (Watson) or not. I’m not into bringing other people down or judging others. Not my place.
 
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Dude there are people working for the Browns in high places who cannot and do not agree with adding DeShaun Watson though they will never be able to admit it publicly. The fans can feel however the fuck they want to feel about Watson and are not required to stop following anything or stop rooting for anyone.

This was a controversial move but the guys in decision making positions care about one thing: winning football games. Quite frankly Jimmy Haslam and Andrew Berry are pretty callous and low quality human beings. But they might have just landed what they need to fucking win, and they’re betting that winning will cure everything…


And….THEY are RIGHT.

The Browns and Watson are preparing for a mega suspension. I’ve heard anywhere from 8 games to a full season at minimum is what they’re bracing for. They’re hoping to get a decision, and then appeal and hope the appeal knocks off some games. If he gets 8, they want to knock it to 4-6. If he gets the boot for a season, they’re gonna try to get it to 8-12.

If he gets less than 8 theyre prepared to accept it as a PR move.

They’re bringing in extra PR people for this situation. They know what they did. And realistically they and we all pretty much know what Watson did..whether it was to 22 women or 15 women or just 10 of em. Dude acted like a privileged sexual predator. But tbh he wasnt the first athlete to and won’t be the last.


All that really matters long term is will he make the Browns a winner, a contender?

If he stays healthy and does that, he will be hated by plenty but overall not enough to make a difference. If he wins games, donates millions publicly, does some half ass service work, goes to counseling or at least pretends to, and works with his pricey PR team…and most importantly keeps his nose clean going forward and only use discrete professionals for his sexual massage needs. His people will find the girls he needs. Which is gross in of itself…but if he does that he will be just fine. If he wins a super bowl he will be fucking beloved so fast it’s not even funny.

It’s disgusting. He’s disgusting. The browns organization is disgusting. The league is disgusting. I barely watch football anymore. I don’t even talk to friends that are employed directly by or in parallel fields to the Haslams, that know Browns brass on and off the field as much because I know even care to know. I gave up on the league and team a long time ago. Kareem Hunt doesn’t even belong here. But here we are.

I’m accepting that it won’t matter, Watson wins enough, and wins the big one? He’ll be a legend and have enough fans and forgiveness that the people who still hate him won’t make a dent or matter.


If he has any sense he will pay every single girl triple what they’re asking for and make everything go away ASAP. Take 10millioj of your year 1 salary and settle with the rest of it. Then donate another 5 to good organizations that help the people he victimized. at least theyll all get $$$

nothing changes the morality or truth that the Browns and Watson are fucking disgusting. and nothing changes the fact that it wont really matter. maybe karma will come througu on this one and his bad knee will get yolked for good. but I doubt it.

go cavs!

Good lord man, take a walk. Lol acting like the Cavs have never employed a questionable person with a checkered past. Yet, here you are. I also question how much you know about Andrew Berry on a personal level, but not going to get into that.
 
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