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Hyperion XP-1 hypercar powered by hydrogen

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Hydrogen can be an energy currency. It can be stored efficiently as a Nickle metal hydride or similar means.. there are more efficient ways to convert electricity to hydrogen than straight electrolysis, and transporting hydrogen fuel can jump accross grids.. All that said, I am not entirely against your position.. fuel cells have thier own problems.. but you can convert a gas burning car to running hydrogen, which gives you a huge jump on penetrating the existing fossil fuel consumers..

I get the Love for Elon, but there is room for more than one vision
 
Ok now calculate the energy to make the battery and dispose of it environmentally. Those are factors ignored in your analysis. Scaling up solar and wind electricity means free electricity. When you talk electricity and water conversions, you can do that forever. Is there enough lithium in the world to replace every gas car with an electric one? I don't think there is.

You are ignoring that creation of fuel hydrogen is one way to store power generated by 'green' energy power like wind and solar during peak times for later use. And the developing world, which can't all go out and buy Elons latest luxury car, need affordable alternatives to gasoline if they are to enter the industrial future and be less polluting to their local enviro. If hydrogen can do that then awesome.

Oh boy, now you've done it!
 
a hyper car that is slower than the new Tesla roadster with enough battery for 620 mile range.
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I don't really understand the point of this.

You missed the 'under' and 'above' of Zero to 60mph in under 2.2 seconds. A top speed above 221mph. This is the 4th prototype from what I have read, and they keep getting better as they learn.

Roadster is 4400 pounds, she going to be portly on the curves.

Devel 16 hits 60 in 1.8, should go up to 350, and is a 12.3 liter quad turbo V16, may never be street legal for top version(even though they are testing on said street already), probably gets under a mile a gallon, and can achieve these speeds simply because it has 5,007 HP to counter it's 5070 weight! Yes, I know, aerodynamics, etc also factor in, but no where near as much as power.

To achieve the 0-XX speeds they simply threw more power at it.
 
It can go 1000 miles on a fill up the first and last day you drive it.

who drives 1000 miles without stopping? EVs refuel while you sleep, just like your phome.
 
who drives 1000 miles without stopping? EVs refuel while you sleep, just like your phome.
I used to drive to Ocala FL once or twice a year from Ohio. About 13 hrs tho Google claims 14, only stopping for gas or a burger. It was about 950 miles.
 
who drives 1000 miles without stopping? EVs refuel while you sleep, just like your phome.

And just like your phone, it doesn't last as long as it used to and you have to also start charging it at work or in the car. But you can't charge your car in the car.
 
I do, if I have someone to drive with.

That is only like 13-14 hours of driving.

no restroom, gas or food stops at all?

I travel with my dogs. I use the time the car charges to walk dogs, use restroom, get snack or meal (while car is in dog mode to keep AC or heat on). My trips do take longer, but I save time the entire rest of the year when I don't have to ever worry about refueling because car is always full when I leave the house.
 
no restroom, gas or food stops at all?

I travel with my dogs. I use the time the car charges to walk dogs, use restroom, get snack or meal (while car is in dog mode to keep AC or heat on). My trips do take longer, but I save time the entire rest of the year when I don't have to ever worry about refueling because car is always full when I leave the house.

At best ten minute rest for fuel and jerky.

I believe in maximum efficiency.
 
At best ten minute rest for fuel and jerky.

I believe in maximum efficiency.

When I travel to our Durham or Nashville offices, I choose to drive since they pay for mileage and I barely put miles on a car to begin with(before covid, about 7k to 8k a year)

Any time you have to stop(like to shit or piss), fill up the tank no matter what it is at. If you get something like a sub for lunch, eat it while driving.
 
When I travel to our Durham or Nashville offices, I choose to drive since they pay for mileage and I barely put miles on a car to begin with(before covid, about 7k to 8k a year)

Any time you have to stop(like to shit or piss), fill up the tank no matter what it is at. If you get something like a sub for lunch, eat it while driving.

you clear much more money being paid by the mile if you drive an EV.
 
At best ten minute rest for fuel and jerky.

I believe in maximum efficiency.

Have you ever figured out how much time you spend a year stopping at a gas station breathing gas fumes the whole time you pump gas? Include all of the time from the time it takes to get to the gas station, wait for a pump if they are full, process credit card, pump the gas, etc.

If you get gas once/week and you can do all of that in 10 minutes (seems low), 5 of which are actually pumping gas, that's just under 9 hours of your time/year pumping gas and 4 1/2 hours breathing gasoline fumes.

The alternative is to just plug your car in overnight just like your phone. Would anyone buy a phone that required going out of your way 10 minutes/week to keep to working? But we've been trained to do that with cars, so don't bother to think about how much time we're actually wasting.

Yes, it adds times to trips, but not nearly as much time as you save otherwise. And if you plan it right and let it charge while you use restroom, eat, etc, and you don't have to wait for the car often. Just change the thinking of grabbing bad food to eat while driving to eat something that's actually good while the car charges.

Even though my 4x/year long drives (two round trips between Ohio and Florida) take longer, the trip itself is actually easier to make between taking actual rest stops and having the car do 99% of the driving and all of the navigation with navigate on autopilot.
 
I used to drive to Ocala FL once or twice a year from Ohio. About 13 hrs tho Google claims 14, only stopping for gas or a burger. It was about 950 miles.

I asked who drives 1000 miles without stopping. gas, burgers, restroom are all stops. 1000 mile range is so unnecessary if you can refuel while you use restroom or get something to eat. Gas cars you have to stay with the car while you refuel. EVs refuel while you do other things, so the time actually waiting for it is reduced and the range keeps increasing and the charge times keep decreasing.
 

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