I think the KPJ fiasco reinforced the idea of bringing high character players to this team and making it even more of a priority.
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Jarrett Allen: Nice Head of Hair
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I think the KPJ fiasco reinforced the idea of bringing high character players to this team and making it even more of a priority.
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Kelsey Russo has a column on Allen in The Athletic. Here are some of the key quotes, starting with Allen himself (I bolded a few parts):
“Coming from Brooklyn, I don’t know what can be said about the championship aspirations in Brooklyn and then coming to a rebuilding team where not every game is going to be a fight for the championship. We know that. But we’re all fighting to get better, fighting to improve our game. So, down the line, we can be part of a championship team. I’ve already said it: I’ve kind of been through that with Brooklyn. Seeing a team like this, knowing what it takes, we have all the right guys and the right mindsets to do it, so I thought, ‘Hey, I’m willing to be part of this again, especially with these guys.’ That’s a major part of it.”
“I see a bright future here that I fit in perfectly,” he said.
“Especially with this group, if we can accelerate the process, especially in our growth and in our knowledge on the basketball court, so then maybe two, three years down the line, we’re fighting for that fifth seed or something,” Allen said.
Koby Altman weighs in:
“We spent the last few years maintaining our financial and roster flexibility to put ourselves in a position to acquire and now re-sign a player of Jarrett’s caliber,” Altman said in a statement on Friday after the signing became official. “Since his arrival, Jarrett has fit seamlessly into our culture and almost instantly, he earned the respect of his coaches and teammates. We took another positive step forward in our pursuit of sustainable success with this signing, as we see Jarrett as an integral piece of our future moving forward.”
And assistant coach J.J. Outlaw on Allen and Mobley:
“Well, I mean, the first thing is that both of them are extremely versatile,” Outlaw said. “We like to use the term Swiss Army knife. Both of them are very good defensively. Both of them can switch onto smalls. Both of them provide rim protection. Both of them can go up and can catch lobs above the rim, which is going to help our smalls. Both of them are really good at setting screens. Evan is an extremely good passer and sees the game at a bunch of different levels. So that’s going to help Jarett as well. So to answer your question, me personally, that’s how I think it’s gonna work. To get two really good, versatile basketball players in the frontcourt, how could it not work?”
“And then the other thing that is like, everybody else isn’t in our building, they’re not in our locker room, and they don’t really know the type of character that those two guys have in the unselfishness that they have been brought up with. And so that’s how it’s gonna work.”
I hope Outlaw is right when he says, "How could it not work?". But Allen seems to think this rebuild has a long way to go.
If we can accelerate the process, especially in our growth and in our knowledge on the basketball court, so then maybe two, three years down the line, we’re fighting for that fifth seed or something.
Wait a minute. In two or three years MAYBE, if we can ACCELERATE THE PROCESS, we can fight for a fifth seed? The fifth seed in the East last year (Atlanta) was 41-31. It's going to take 2-3 years, which means 2-3 more first round picks, to get to 10 games over .500? It sounds like Allen is not expecting a quick improvement. Be patient, Cavs' fans. Very patient. It will work. It can't not work. But it will take a long time.
“Coming from Brooklyn, I don’t know what can be said about the championship aspirations in Brooklyn and then coming to a rebuilding team where not every game is going to be a fight for the championship. We know that. But we’re all fighting to get better, fighting to improve our game. So, down the line, we can be part of a championship team. I’ve already said it: I’ve kind of been through that with Brooklyn. Seeing a team like this, knowing what it takes, we have all the right guys and the right mindsets to do it, so I thought, ‘Hey, I’m willing to be part of this again, especially with these guys.’ That’s a major part of it.”
“I see a bright future here that I fit in perfectly,” he said.
“Especially with this group, if we can accelerate the process, especially in our growth and in our knowledge on the basketball court, so then maybe two, three years down the line, we’re fighting for that fifth seed or something,” Allen said.
Koby Altman weighs in:
“We spent the last few years maintaining our financial and roster flexibility to put ourselves in a position to acquire and now re-sign a player of Jarrett’s caliber,” Altman said in a statement on Friday after the signing became official. “Since his arrival, Jarrett has fit seamlessly into our culture and almost instantly, he earned the respect of his coaches and teammates. We took another positive step forward in our pursuit of sustainable success with this signing, as we see Jarrett as an integral piece of our future moving forward.”
And assistant coach J.J. Outlaw on Allen and Mobley:
“Well, I mean, the first thing is that both of them are extremely versatile,” Outlaw said. “We like to use the term Swiss Army knife. Both of them are very good defensively. Both of them can switch onto smalls. Both of them provide rim protection. Both of them can go up and can catch lobs above the rim, which is going to help our smalls. Both of them are really good at setting screens. Evan is an extremely good passer and sees the game at a bunch of different levels. So that’s going to help Jarett as well. So to answer your question, me personally, that’s how I think it’s gonna work. To get two really good, versatile basketball players in the frontcourt, how could it not work?”
“And then the other thing that is like, everybody else isn’t in our building, they’re not in our locker room, and they don’t really know the type of character that those two guys have in the unselfishness that they have been brought up with. And so that’s how it’s gonna work.”
I hope Outlaw is right when he says, "How could it not work?". But Allen seems to think this rebuild has a long way to go.
If we can accelerate the process, especially in our growth and in our knowledge on the basketball court, so then maybe two, three years down the line, we’re fighting for that fifth seed or something.
Wait a minute. In two or three years MAYBE, if we can ACCELERATE THE PROCESS, we can fight for a fifth seed? The fifth seed in the East last year (Atlanta) was 41-31. It's going to take 2-3 years, which means 2-3 more first round picks, to get to 10 games over .500? It sounds like Allen is not expecting a quick improvement. Be patient, Cavs' fans. Very patient. It will work. It can't not work. But it will take a long time.
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It would kill the local t-shirt industry
I can already envision somebody taking two skyscrapers, having them morph into Allen and Mobley, and slapping it on a t-shirt
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What is up with this dude? I keep scratching my head why we paid this guy big but not Sexton, who honestly appears to be ten times the player as Allen regardless of size. And at least seems to try. He just seems so hazy the last 20 plus games and it didn't go away at all last night.
Not freaking out either, just generally curious.
Not freaking out either, just generally curious.
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I'm alarmed. This looks like post-concussion Allen. Mobley looked like the better player already.
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It looked like Jarrett was playing with oven mitts on last night. I think half our turnovers happened because he couldn't catch the ball.
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This is,why you don't listen to the fans when it comes to contract negotiations. The majority of the fanbase and local media wanted Allen to get his money over Collin. Say what you want about Collin,he won't disappear on most nights unlike Allen. It felt like it was four versus five with Allen on the floor.
I'm not calling Allen a bum because he's not but I would rather the team gave that money to Collin than him.
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His hands are horrible. I was so excited when TT was gone and am really hoping I don’t have to watch 5 more years of a plodding guy in the middle who fumbles every pass.
Not now. But at 20 mil he is very tradeable. But let’s see what he does this year first
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$20M/year is role player money.
This is like saying you’d rather have given Denzel Valentine’s money to Sexton. Of course you would, but that amount isn’t going to get you Sexton.
I just don’t really get Allen. He seems like a chill guy who just hangs out in the paint, gets a block, gets a dunk every so often, some boards…he does usually fill up the stat sheet pretty good but it rarely feels like he’s a real force in the game. I mean, fine, but is that really worth $20 million in today’s game? I guess so