Jarrett Allen: Nice Head of Hair

[inliner311]

$20M/year is role player money.

This is like saying you’d rather have given Denzel Valentine’s money to Sexton. Of course you would, but that amount isn’t going to get you Sexton.

Is it really role player money? Allen is the 55th highest paid player in the league and probably isn't going to be a top 3 or 4 player on the Cavs if we get it together.

 

[Ozone]

Is it really role player money? Allen is the 55th highest paid player in the league and probably isn't going to be a top 3 or 4 player on the Cavs if we get it together.

He is in fact still being developed though and the sad truth about the cost of retaining players in a small market.
The worst part is he suddenly looks less motivated than before he got paid which could be something to watch. But I think it is just nursing injuries, not having his game legs yet and needing to work on catching Rubio and Sexton bullet passes instead of Garland softballs.

 

[Cavatt]

Is it really role player money? Allen is the 55th highest paid player in the league and probably isn't going to be a top 3 or 4 player on the Cavs if we get it together.

I want to see better defense form him. Mobley is probably the better defender already.

 

[Derek]

Is it really role player money? Allen is the 55th highest paid player in the league and probably isn't going to be a top 3 or 4 player on the Cavs if we get it together.

Yes, it’s decisively role player money.

You can’t look at salary rankings because he’s in the first year of his contract. He’ll probably be outside the top 100 within two years.

 

[Lee]

Is it really role player money? Allen is the 55th highest paid player in the league and probably isn't going to be a top 3 or 4 player on the Cavs if we get it together.

Except new contracts are always higher up and 56th will soon be 80th or 90th in a couple of years. NBA salaries are just stupid high unfortunately. He will be the 4th or 5th highest paid player on the team in 4 or 5 years if he is here that long.

Basically Allen is worth 15 mill a year, but got paid 20 because of the big leap in the cap and we really cant afford to lose him so we had to overpay a bit. That is life in sports.

 

[Dylan Windler's Mom]

Except new contracts are always higher up and 56th will soon be 80th or 90th in a couple of years. NBA salaries are just stupid high unfortunately. He will be the 4th or 5th highest paid player on the team in 4 or 5 years if he is here that long.

Basically Allen is worth 15 mill a year, but got paid 20 because of the big leap in the cap and we really cant afford to lose him so we had to overpay a bit. That is life in sports.

why when he was a restricted free agent?

 

[Randolphkeys]

Yes, it’s decisively role player money.

You can’t look at salary rankings because he’s in the first year of his contract. He’ll probably be outside the top 100 within two years.

Cedi is making 8.1 million because when he signed, that's what you pay a 7th or 8th in the rotation man off the bench. Lauri is making 14 million because that is what you now pay a 7th or 8th rotation man off the bench in 2021.

Allen's contract was significantly less than John Collins and in the same ballpark as Norman Powell. I'd argue it's league average starter money.

 

[Heat Check]

Lauri is making 14 million because that is what you now pay a 7th or 8th rotation man off the bench in 2021.

He's making 16 per. And if you think that's 8th man money in the NBA, you're crazy.

 

[Lee]

why when he was a restricted free agent?

Restricted means you can match, what if he doesnt sign another teams offer? How would you handle that. Play a game of chicken, make him sit out the year and lose him for nothing.

In a year of little cap space we could have signed him one year and lose him, or negotiate with him for a long term deal, we decided to negotiate long term thus the 20 mill per.

 

[Randolphkeys]

He's making 16 per. And if you think that's 8th man money in the NBA, you're crazy.

...or, you aren't keeping up nor are you correctly summarizing my thesis.

 

[Derek]

...or, you aren't keeping up nor are you correctly summarizing my thesis.

The salary cap has doubled over the last decade, and a lot of people’s eyes haven’t adjusted.

 

[Derek]

NBA Player Salaries - National Basketball Association - ESPN

See the highest and lowest player salaries in the NBA on ESPN.com

www.espn.com

If you want a good laugh, look at the top salaries year-by-year.

Allen’s 5 year 100 million would have been 4 years 40 million in 2011

Joel Embiid will make a few million more during the 2026-27 season than LeBron, Bosh, and Wade COMBINED to make in 2011-12.

 

[Dr No]

At this rate, Love won’t be overpaid next year.

 

[cavsfever]

He's making 16 per. And if you think that's 8th man money in the NBA, you're crazy.

$16 million can’t possibly be 7th or 8th man money when the salary cap is $112 million and the top 6 or 7 guys should all make more than the 8th man

nor can $20 million be average starter money within a $112 million cap when the top stars make $30 million plus and you have to pay 15 guys on your roster. $20 million, you expect a guy to be above average

 

[Kouki]

This is a pretty silly debate tbh, there are so many variables that talking about "8th man money" doesn't even make sense from the get go.

Like just think about it, there's no nice linear progression from the highest paid player on a team to the lowest except in rare circumstances. It might be better to talk about median instead of average but even that is going to be skewed. And a young guy who signed in 2021 with potential is going to be making different money than a ring chasing vet. Yeah you can go ahead and average them, have fun, but thats a pretty useless and non-informative thing to do

And there's what like five teams actually under the cap?