John-Blair Bickerstaff: Currently The 6th Longest Tenured Head Coach

[Jscc]

Dean Wade averaged 20.5 minutes per game and has already missed 21 games. The knee injury is JBB’s fault for playing him too much?

There are valid criticisms to be made about JBB. Blaming him for Wade’s injury isn’t valid.

Then again Jarrett’s finger injury that caused him to miss the last 18 games of the season (Cavs went 7-11) is also contributing to evidence JBB’s teams fade late. It was of course JBB’s fault that Allen got hurt, right? (Allen hasn’t missed any games since the first six this season but even that was probably JBB’s fault as well because he played him too much in practice I guess).

Okoro is out with a bad toe, not a knee injury. But he’s missed 11 games and averaged 27.4 mpg. Too many minutes, JBB strikes again.

Mitchell and Strus are 22nd and 75th in mpg this season. Mitchell is just behind LeBron and just ahead of Brunson (all three round to 35.2 mpg). Mitchell has also missed 25 games. His mpg are right around most other star players. Too many minutes, JBB ruined both of them.

It‘s not like we are the only team with injuries.

Ty Jerome is totally JBB’s fault though. Played him 15 minutes total in the first two games of the season and he’s done. Clear case of overusing a player. Fireable offense.

My man, if the answer being yes to all of this gets us a new head coach then by god yes. YES to all of it!!

 

[Cavatt]

Nurse played Embiid the entire 1st and 3rd quarters. He’s now doing the same with Maxey. There have been games Maxey has played the entire second half.

Thibs also plays his guys for long stretches.

Pitch counts were not an issue until the 80s. You pitched a starter until he screwed up. Stronger starters wo
uld pitch an entire game; weaker starters would give you 6-7 innings. Nowadays a starter who goes 7 innings is rare, and complete games very rare.



Maybe analytics will lead to more stringent minutes restrictions in the hope of avoiding injury or a decline in performance due to “overuse”. The difficulty is that every player is different of course. Also pro athletics is about pushing limits and achieving beyond what you think is possible and there’s often no way of knowing in advance what is too much.

The underlined is my issue here. He knows these guys, and has had some of them 3+ years. There have been some of these type of injuries every year. Every team has hurt players, but JB should have data to work with. He's not a 1st year coach

 

[2 For The Brew]

The underlined is my issue here. He knows these guys, and has had some of them 3+ years. There have been some of these type of injuries every year. Every team has hurt players, but JB should have data to work with. He's not a 1st year coach

Strus wasn’t here last year.

Mitchell played about the same mpg as last season and there wasn’t an issue.

Wade had a shoulder injury last year and a knee injury now. Not the same thing.

Allen hasn’t missed a game since the first six.

Mobley did not have issues the prior seasons like he did this year and his injuries were clearly not from overuse.

Garland broke his jaw on KP. Last year he got his eye injured. Don’t know how JBB could have prevented either of those.

Niang hasn’t missed a game.

Caris has had fewer games lost to injury since he joined the team.

I‘m not seeing how injuries this season correlate to past seasons and could have been predicted based on data.

 

[Kouki]

Attributing all or most of the injuries to JBB is silly, I hope no one is doing that. But fatigue is the concern that is easier to attribute to the coach. Guys playing 12+ straight minutes, guys gassed in the fourth, guys playing big minutes in B2B games so JBB can try to save his job. JBB teams pretty consistently starting off the season strong with "effort" and "hustle" to rack up wins while everyone else is just "eh, regular season"....and then floundering at the end of the season.

Shit, don't we suspect that DM and Caris were held out of games for load management, and that it was not a JBB decision? (Trying to be coy here)

 

[ryanf]

I wasn’t defending Bickerstaff. Just posting facts.

if you post facts, make sure it supports your argument. this does not.

 

[cabs]

He's either coaching his final 6 regular season games or we're having one hell of a playoff run

 

[PIP]

To saunter into that arena last night, in Utah, being a minority coach, again, IN UTAH— and to stay laser focused on the task at hand — under the intense and radical conditions that Utah brings ??

Really goes to show that coach is just not mentally tough, but he can overcome any obstacle that is thrown his way…

There’s really nothing left to prove…

Very reminiscent of another GOAT…

 

[cavsfever]

if you post facts, make sure it supports your argument. this does not.

sometimes people post facts because they are of interest and useful context, not to start an argument. Amazing I know.

 

[2 For The Brew]

if you post facts, make sure it supports your argument. this does not.

I’m not a litigator in a courtroom. Intellectual honesty requires recognition of all relevant facts whether they support your views or not. Otherwise one risks becoming a prisoner of a narrative that might be false.

True idiots on the other hand are those expecting intellectual honesty online, where narrative and fanatical opinions rule and facts are useful only to confirm biases.

Fortunately we do have a few idiots here so I feel a sense of belonging.

 

[ryanf]

I’m not a litigator in a courtroom. Intellectual honesty requires recognition of all relevant facts whether they support your views or not. Otherwise one risks becoming a prisoner of a narrative that might be false.

True idiots on the other hand are those expecting intellectual honesty online, where narrative and fanatical opinions rule and facts are useful only to confirm biases.

Fortunately we do have a few idiots here so I feel a sense of belonging.

good for you man, carry on

 

[PIP]

Gotta admit, to coach a back to back game in a dry desert, on a Wednesday, in a completely different time zone with temperatures reportedly soaring upwards to 188 degrees and to be able to keep his team not only hydrated, but to not have any person on his staff die from a heat stroke is mighty impressive…

Was just seven 3’s away from taking it to the 5th quarter… And keep in mind he was down Ty Jerome in this one..

He’s more than our coach… He’s becoming the standard…

 

[dirtywax]

Impatiently counting down the days....

 

[guitarguy]

Since it seems pretty much inevitable that JB is gone, do the Cavs fully swing the other way and full D'Antoni like hire and forget about defense to overcompensate?

I'm basically done talking about Bickerstaff, it's just too much at this point.

 

[Thelastcavsfan]

They need to hire a young offensive mind. Get background that he has good leadership though. No retreads though.

 

[2 For The Brew]

They need to hire a young offensive mind. Get background that he has good leadership though. No retreads though.

Two years ago I’d definitely agree. Last year I’d probably agree. Now - I’m not sure hiring a rookie is the right move. Our team is further along in the development process and expectations will be high.

Difficulty is that most proven winners that have some tread left are currently hired.