Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[avs2000]

The Cavs are the Browns circa 1999-2018. Wouldn’t you be frustrated?

It was a turnover. One play. Three points in the box score. As someone else said, I’ve seen far worse out of Kyrie and Lebron.

Buyout, trade, bench...do whatever you want to Love but the team is gonna suck with this owner, this coach and these players. Much like that rat Haslam, look to the top. The Browns only improved once he admitted he was hurting the franchise and stepped aside.

Since Gilbert’s stroke I am not sure how active he is with day to day bball stuff

I give Gilbert credit he spends $ and has the only championship in this town for the last 50 years

 

[WorldFreeB]

2 hours ago – via Jason Lloyd @ The Athletic
Ultimately, both sides might agree to a buyout. Love has about $60 million remaining on his contract over the next two years. Blake Griffin, another Jeff Schwartz client, gave back $13 million of the $75 million owed to him to get out of Detroit. If Love wants to give back $10 million or $15 million, the Cavs mi ght accommodate him and send him on his way. They can stretch the money owed to him, and it certainly wouldn’t be the first time Dan Gilbert has paid people not to work for him.


I was with keeping love until this year and I thought giving up a 1st round pick in order for a team to take his salary was ridiculous (as Ainge suggested). But now it would have been a good move in hindsight. He needs to be gone!

By the way we are still paying J R for one more year.

If Kevin Love never played another minute for the cavs and agreed to refund 15 million dollars of his remaining contract
he will have made 105 million dollars and appeared in 74 games 2196 minutes in total. Nearly 1.5 million a game.
Give him the money and get him out of here.

 

[2 For The Brew]

LOL at everyone who thinks the Cavaliers have any leverage at all with this dude.

Why would he give up one dime? He’s got about $60 million coming after this season.

But of course this is all the Cavaliers fault. As if no other team or owner in sports has ever had behavior or motivation issues with guaranteed contract players.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

LOL at everyone who thinks the Cavaliers have any leverage at all with this dude. Why would he give up one dime? He’s got about $60 million coming after this season.

What if they tell him that next year the rotation will be Allen, Hartenstein, Nance, Wade, Prince, Okoro, Sexton, Garland, and whoever they draft? A nine-man rotation and Love will not be part of it. His role will be like James Jones in 2016. He'll get a few minutes in garbage time now and then. He can be the next James Jones for the next two years for $60 million or take $45 million and be free to sign with any team that he wants, assuming they have a spot for him. Does anybody really think he'd rather sit on the bench for two years than play somewhere?

As I suggested earlier, he needs to do what Bill Walton did at the end of his career and latch on as a sixth man with a contending team. Maybe sign a minimum deal to back up Durant or Unibrow.

 

[Kizzle]

People make mistakes. This team is better with Love period. Buying him out is stupid when he’d be a great asset when he’s expiring. It’s not like he’s a poor attitude guy. He got mad once and did a really unprofessional play. Not the end of the world. Im not giving up on finding a trade partner just because he went viral

 

[Peachtree]

Forced?

How does that work?

Koby held a gun to his head and Dan Gilbert assured him that either his brains or his signature would be on the contract.

 

[Cavatt]

The backlash is now over the top. Some of this was well-deserved, but people calling for him to be stretched or whatever, that just isn't going to happen.

I do't care that he tried to show up a ref who was doing a poor job and acting immature himself. The issue to me was the lack of focus when teh game was close and the bad example that was for the young guys. It is the lack of trust in your leader.

He made himself and the team look bad.

The guy is probably frustrated he has shot poorly since the 2nd or 3rd game he came back. He doesn't appear to be more than a slight floor raiser as far as impact anymore. He can't really put the team on his back or anything. Collin is clearly the best player and Darius is making headway here too.

This is Love's opportunity to figure out how he can best contribute going forward.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

What if they tell him that next year the rotation will be Allen, Hartenstein, Nance, Wade, Prince, Okoro, Sexton, Garland, and whoever they draft? A nine-man rotation and Love will not be part of it. His role will be like James Jones in 2016. He'll get a few minutes in garbage time now and then. He can be the next James Jones for the next two years for $60 million or take $45 million and be free to sign with any team that he wants, assuming they have a spot for him. Does anybody really think he'd rather sit on the bench for two years than play somewhere?

He'll say "Fine. Then just pay me to sit at home like you did with JR and Drummond."

 

[brownsbuck6]

The backlash is now over the top. Some of this was well-deserved, but people calling for him to be stretched or whatever, that just isn't going to happen.

I do't care that he tried to show up a ref who was doing a poor job and acting immature himself. The issue to me was the lack of focus when teh game was close and the bad example that was for the young guys. It is the lack of trust in your leader.

He made himself and the team look bad.

The guy is probably frustrated he has shot poorly since the 2nd or 3rd game he came back. He doesn't appear to be more than a slight floor raiser as far as impact anymore. He can't really put the team on his back or anything. Collin is clearly the best player and Darius is making headway here too.

This is Love's opportunity to figure out how he can best contribute going forward.

I agree with this at this point. My previous post was meant in more generalities, but this event is over and done with and has become overblown. He wasn't aiming his angst at his teammates.

 

[Rich]

People make mistakes. This team is better with Love period. Buying him out is stupid when he’d be a great asset when he’s expiring. It’s not like he’s a poor attitude guy. He got mad once and did a really unprofessional play. Not the end of the world. Im not giving up on finding a trade partner just because he went viral

How would he be a great asset as an expiring.

We just did this with Andre Drummond. Got nothing for him.

How many times are we gonna talk ourselves into these gigantic expirings being super valuable?

 

[WorldFreeB]

I agree with this at this point. My previous post was meant in more generalities, but this event is over and done with and has become overblown. He wasn't aiming his angst at his teammates.

But is this the kind of person/player you want your young players around?
Even if he didn't show frustration with his teammates it sets a bad example for the young guys on the team
if you want to build a winning culture. (which is what I keep hearing about how the cavs want to build a winning culture)

 

[bronko]

Love's play brings to mind the Ricky Davis triple double play 18 years ago. That they compare at all is embarrassing, but I think what Love did was worse. Davis intentionally missed a shot at his own basket in order to get the rebound to complete the triple double. It came in the closing minutes of a rare Cav blowout win. Davis was rewarded by being tackled by opponent DeShawn Stevenson, and opposing coach Jerry Sloan's post-game quote was “I was proud of DeShawn and I would have knocked him down harder. They can put me in jail for saying that, but that’s the way it is.”
. What would Sloan made of Love's actions? He'd have tackled him no matter which side he was playing for. This wasn't in the ultra physical 60-70s NBA, it was 18 years ago. Maybe Love needs to work more on his emotional issues, but it was the type of play that can make you and your team a laughingstock. I don't think we make too much of it, I think it's more like not enough. He's not some dumb rookie, he's in his thirties and was supposed to be a team leader.
I like watching this team, except for the end results, its a lot more fun to watch than most of the LeBron teams. It'll be even more fun in a couple years when Kev is gone.

 

[avs2000]

Love's play brings to mind the Ricky Davis triple double play 18 years ago. That they compare at all is embarrassing, but I think what Love did was worse. Davis intentionally missed a shot at his own basket in order to get the rebound to complete the triple double. It came in the closing minutes of a rare Cav blowout win. Davis was rewarded by being tackled by opponent DeShawn Stevenson, and opposing coach Jerry Sloan's post-game quote was “I was proud of DeShawn and I would have knocked him down harder. They can put me in jail for saying that, but that’s the way it is.”
. What would Sloan made of Love's actions? He'd have tackled him no matter which side he was playing for. This wasn't in the ultra physical 60-70s NBA, it was 18 years ago. Maybe Love needs to work more on his emotional issues, but it was the type of play that can make you and your team a laughingstock. I don't think we make too much of it, I think it's more like not enough. He's not some dumb rookie, he's in his thirties and was supposed to be a team leader.
I like watching this team, except for the end results, its a lot more fun to watch than most of the LeBron teams. It'll be even more fun in a couple years when Kev is gone.

Wish they would just shut live down for the year. Doubt he cares. Prevent him from another injury. With another lotto pick coming in. Maybe a mid fa signing the team will better next year. Playing love now has no upside

 

[KevinLoveFan]

Cavs' Love sorry for outburst: 'That wasn't me'

Cavaliers forward Kevin Love has apologized for his on-court tantrum Monday night, saying his behavior was out of line and out of character.

www.espn.com

Official public 'apology.'

I really cannot stand "it wasn't me" statements when people do something wrong. Yes, it was you.

Was it blown out of proportion, yeah, and was it toward the ref rather than his teammates, yeah. But it still was a major error, and he should own up to it completely.

 

[Randolphkeys]

2 hours ago – via Jason Lloyd @ The Athletic
Ultimately, both sides might agree to a buyout. Love has about $60 million remaining on his contract over the next two years. Blake Griffin, another Jeff Schwartz client, gave back $13 million of the $75 million owed to him to get out of Detroit. If Love wants to give back $10 million or $15 million, the Cavs mi ght accommodate him and send him on his way. They can stretch the money owed to him, and it certainly wouldn’t be the first time Dan Gilbert has paid people not to work for him.


I was with keeping love until this year and I thought giving up a 1st round pick in order for a team to take his salary was ridiculous (as Ainge suggested). But now it would have been a good move in hindsight. He needs to be gone!

By the way we are still paying J R for one more year.

I'm just shocked anyone believes that drama was helpful to the Pistons franchise... at all. That drama benefitted everyone involved besides the franchise and Detroit fans. The Nets, Griffin, major markets who love using the Rust Belt as the minor leagues... everyone but the Pistons.