Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[Comeback kid]

I'm not sure I trust JBB's judgment on whether Wade was good enough either. If Miami can dust Duncan Robinson off after sitting for most of the season and then throw him in against Milwaukee to help win the series, then Wade could've gotten more than 8 minutes the entire series against New York too. The team was desperate for a wrinkle.

Yeah I’d hate to give a chance to 37% lifetime shooters like Wade and Love any chance to shoot at all. Or miss one and you’re gonezo.

 

[2 For The Brew]

LOL comparing Wade and Love as 3pt shooters. Dean Wade has made 176 in four years. Kevin Love made 187 in 2021-22 alone playing 22.5 mpg.

Volume matters. Guys like Royce O'Neal, Dena Wade and Isaac Okoro don't shoot enough to matter as offensive threats. Our team needs scoring but we continue to pursue & sign nonscorers.

 

[godfather]

Love to say I told you soooo

I think it's obvious now that you have to stick with guys and let them work through shit. The people that proved themselves are a great example. Okoro and LeVert were some of the only people that actually produced. Kev found a home in Miami.

We have no idea what we even have because of this really strange philosophy of jb. Neto is a baller, Stevens deserves some time, Osman can play, etc etc etc.

Yeah, them never playing Neto frustrated me. Especially when it was evident he was better than Rubio. Hell, he couldn't play much before Rubio came back.

And the inconsistency. I am not the biggest Osman fan. But it is still bizarre, out of the blue, when doesn't sometimes even play him. I believe it happen in Boston, where he didn't play. I don't believe he was injured, because then he plays the next night. He's still the second best player off the bench.

JB makes no sense. I don't even think he has a real plan at times.

 

[Comeback kid]

LOL comparing Wade and Love as 3pt shooters. Dean Wade has made 176 in four years. Kevin Love made 187 in 2021-22 alone playing 22.5 mpg.

Volume matters. Guys like Royce O'Neal, Dena Wade and Isaac Okoro don't shoot enough to matter as offensive threats. Our team needs scoring but we continue to pursue & sign nonscorers.

LOL, and 41% in 4 years at K-State. Shooters are shooters no matter where they’re at. Just got to be allowed to play and shoot it.

 

[2 For The Brew]

LOL, and 41% in 4 years at K-State. Shooters are shooters no matter where they’re at. Just got to be allowed to play and shoot it.

Always with the percentages, never with the volume. Funny that.

But K-State? Seriously? Heading for fifth year in the NBA and that somehow matters? He’s not in Kansas anymore.

 

[Benway]

There are vanishingly few JBB defenders in NE Ohio today.

 

[2 For The Brew]

There are vanishingly few JBB defenders in NE Ohio today.

Not at Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse though.

 

[Benway]

Not at Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse though.

Is there anybody there at all?

 

[Comeback kid]

Always with the percentages, never with the volume. Funny that.

But K-State? Seriously? Heading for fifth year in the NBA and that somehow matters? He’s not in Kansas anymore.

Funny how do you get volume from 5 minutes a night? Especially with JB. A shooter is a shooter no matter what level they’re playing at. High school, D1 school, junior college, G league, or NBA. 39.9% in G league where he actually got playing time. Just hard to score off the bench getting jacked around for playing time.

 

[godfather]

I don't think Wade is good enough though to play serious minutes. Should have seen some burn? I guess, because our bench sucks. But if you need him to play a lot of minutes, your bench sucks, and should have never gotten rid of Love.

I have no idea, at all, why playing Wade ahead of Love was a viable plan.

Love is a veteran, has a title, and just better. Yes, even at this stage in his career. Defensively? No, but everything else, YES! Easily!

Wade is a 9th man off the bench at best. That decision alone is asinine to me.

 

[godfather]

LOL comparing Wade and Love as 3pt shooters. Dean Wade has made 176 in four years. Kevin Love made 187 in 2021-22 alone playing 22.5 mpg.

Volume matters. Guys like Royce O'Neal, Dena Wade and Isaac Okoro don't shoot enough to matter as offensive threats. Our team needs scoring but we continue to pursue & sign nonscorers.

Wade is a poor offensive player. He's actually worse than Okoro.

Just look up the numbers, he's a big fat negative, offensively, (much worse) than Okoro on the court.

Offensively we are better with Issac on the floor. He's a negative player too, but not as bad as Wade, or in previous years.

Wade is no stretch big, just because he's white. Sure, he can make an outside shot here and there. He's no offensive threat though. He's a scrappy defender, that's it. He has no business playing serious minutes in the NBA.

Again, laughable we expected a bigger role out of him.

 

[godfather]

LOL, and 41% in 4 years at K-State. Shooters are shooters no matter where they’re at. Just got to be allowed to play and shoot it.

Shooting in college and NBA is not even close to the same. Because the spacing is different, the time you have to shoot is much shorter than it is in college. The players are longer.

I don't care if he was a 60% shooter in college. There's a reason why we've seen guys shoot lights out in college, and are awful shooters in the NBA. Because they can't keep up with the speed difference. And their release isn't quick enough. The length difference is tremendous too. You're shooting over monsters in the NBA. In college you're shooting over most guys on the court.

It's not the same. Wade's numbers offensively, are bad. As everything on offense. He's very below average offensive player in the league. Always has been. Always will be.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Funny how do you get volume from 5 minutes a night? Especially with JB. A shooter is a shooter no matter what level they’re playing at. High school, D1 school, junior college, G league, or NBA. 39.9% in G league where he actually got playing time. Just hard to score off the bench getting jacked around for playing time.

Per 36 minutes Dean has 2.0 made 3 point shots and 9.9 points in his career. One made three point bucket in an 18 minute backup stint is not a shooter in the NBA.

And no, a shooter in HS or college is usually not an NBA shooter because most shots won’t work against NBA defenders. G League defenders aren’t close to NBA defenders either.

Dean has had a better career than, say, Adam Morrison who shot 43% from three his final year in college but flamed out completely in the NBA and he’s got that second contract which many lottery players never get. He’s a decent defender who’s got close to 12 mil guaranteed the next two years which is nice. But there’s no evidence to date that he’s anything close to an average rotation player on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Funny how do you get volume from 5 minutes a night? Especially with JB. A shooter is a shooter no matter what level they’re playing at. High school, D1 school, junior college, G league, or NBA. 39.9% in G league where he actually got playing time. Just hard to score off the bench getting jacked around for playing time.

Then look at the per 36 numbers so you can take playing time out of it.

Player A shot 36.2% from 3, and made 1.4 per 36. He also shot 61.7% from 2, and made 2.5 per 36. Total eFG of 58.2%, scoring 10.7 per 36.

Player B shot 35.4% from 3, and made 1.8 per 36. He also shot 56% from 2, and made 1.1 per 36. Total eFG of 54%, scoring 8.3 per 36.

Player A is Okoro, Player B is Wade. At 8.3 points per 36, Wade is not only the lowest on the team in points scored per 36 minutes played, but is the only guy on the team below 10 points per 36.

And you call him a "shooter".

You act like people are just picking on Wade unfairly, but haven't you heard people here talk about how Okoro must take more shots to be an offensive threat? Are we all just picking on him unfairly too? And Wade not only shoots the ball even less than Okoro, but has lower percentages from both 3 and 2. So what would you expect people to say?

Dean doesn't take enough shots, even when he's got openings.

 

[BigZ94]

Not saying Wade would have saved us, but as bad as Osman was playing and shooting it’s weird he didn’t even get a chance