Koby Altman nailed, then failed to take breathalyzer…

[Ozone]

Tunnel vision in full effect here! Take off the rose colored glssses. I’m just saying right now the Kings are a better team than we are. The last three years the Kings won 31, 31 and 39. In contrast the Cavs won 22, 19, and 19! Yes! The Kings are the better team with the better talent

they have better middle of the road overpaid vets that play, like Barnes vs Love, but nothing else really. If you are disgruntled about not picking Halitosis, stock up on the mouthwash, because he is injury prone as hell and will be one of those CP3 types, that gets hurt in the playoffs every season.

 

[Ozone]

I've never understood the argument that Ainge should be given credit for "winning" that trade. It's like people grade that trade based on some imaginary non-headcase Kyrie rather than the dude who actually exists.

right Boston fans won that trade lol , that is why they are wanting to put Kyrie in the furnace now that he is for karma's sake in Brooklyn.You know the place that Danny fleeced years previously, but mismanaged the assets from. Celtics never won anything since all that transpired, and now are telling Danny boy not to let the door hit him ass. Cavs got rid of Irving, and Sexton has far outperformed his draft spot.

 

[foucault87]

I dont want Ainge. He is not the route to go if we replace Koby. Stop hiring retreads and get new blood

 

[Ozone]

I dont want Ainge. He is not the route to go if we replace Koby. Stop hiring retreads and get new blood

He is not moving on from Boston to work elsewhere. No worries. Said as much, that he just hit retirement age and is retiring from the entire thing.

 

[adam81king]

Guessing I'm in the small minority, but I have zero interest in Danny Ainge. He doesn't do well in signing free agents and drafts average (has had 2 really good picks that were pretty obvious based on position). He does well with trades, but even those have gotten worse over the years. I think Ainge is vastly overrated and more lucky than good.

Hes also completely unaware of what's going on with his team. At the risk of getting political, his response to this Kyrie situation, given what Marcus Smart has said several times, doesn't bode well for the modern NBA team. If he's throwing money at a personnel man, there are several others I'd prefer before Ainge.

 

[Peachtree]

I would take Ainge in a Jerry West type role, but I don't think DG would go for it.

 

[FrontPageNews]

Guessing I'm in the small minority, but I have zero interest in Danny Ainge. He doesn't do well in signing free agents and drafts average (has had 2 really good picks that were pretty obvious based on position). He does well with trades, but even those have gotten worse over the years. I think Ainge is vastly overrated and more lucky than good.

Hes also completely unaware of what's going on with his team. At the risk of getting political, his response to this Kyrie situation, given what Marcus Smart has said several times, doesn't bode well for the modern NBA team. If he's throwing money at a personnel man, there are several others I'd prefer before Ainge.

He’s made the playoffs 15 out of 18 years. You’d have to be insane to not want him after watching every single non lebron Gilbert run team miss the playoffs.

 

[adam81king]

He’s made the playoffs 15 out of 18 years. You’d have to be insane to not want him after watching every single non lebron Gilbert run team miss the playoffs.

I think hes vastly overrated. Making the playoffs with the resources he's had isn't anything to write home about. He has exactly as many Championships in those 18yrs as the Cavaliers do in their existence, despite having all those resources and favorable circumstances.

 

[Cavatt]

Doesn't have a good rapport with players. The exact thing I don't like about Koby. Koby has drafted well in less than ideal slots, Ainge hasn't. SO we would get the worst of both world's IMO

 

[kidduck]

Ainge is past his prime. Let him graze anywhere but on the Cavs payroll.

I really question if Ainge has the energy to take on a multi-year
rebuild in a market that doesn't attract free agents.

Can't someone be found to be an assistant to Koby who is
more user friendly for the players and who can read the tea leafs
during troubled times and figure out how the Cavs don't always
end up with egg on the face and holding the short end of the stick?

If that should just be part of the GM duties, Koby should be on
a short leash, based on his track record.

Kobys' biggest failure is not even beginning to establish the
'culture' that he brings up.

Is there any sense of a holistic approach to building
the team and organization from top to bottom to
get back to a contender status? Not just lip service, but
actions with plus results.

How much of the volatility in personnel issues falls on JBB?

 

[Ozone]

He’s made the playoffs 15 out of 18 years. You’d have to be insane to not want him after watching every single non lebron Gilbert run team miss the playoffs.

He is old and retired now, If he ever gets bored and comes back it will be somewhere sunny and warm

 

[mhi]

The guy I would give a shot there is Mike Zarren. The Celtics ownership just passed him over for someone who couldn't even do the job they hired him into the NBA to do. Zarren is highly regarded and has experience, and the structural/organizational changes alone would be worth it.

Michael Zarren - Assistant GM and Team Counsel | Boston Celtics (nba.com)

 

[Ohioplayer00]

Bagley is tall and can jump and thats it. He has no control, jumps too early and fouls a ton. He cannot shoot, is a horror on defense, and has no playmaking, ballhandling, or even post skills. I have no idea what you are watching but he is the same player he was in college. Bagley is not good. Wade and possibly Stevens/Kabegale are better. His metrics suck and hes bad on the eye test too. What an awful pick.


I also do not think it makes any sense to discuss players without their contracts as context. If I had Kevin Love on the vetmin thats a value player, not at 30m. Similarly, hield is overpaid to be a worse jj reddick

Well we have different opinions of him because living in Sac I see him play quite a bit and to say Stevens, Wade and Kabegale is better than him tells you haven’t.

 

[Cavatt]

Well we have different opinions of him because living in Sac I see him play quite a bit and to say Stevens, Wade and Kabegale is better than him tells you haven’t.

You are forgetting the part where Kabengele rules and Bagley drools

 

[Green Lantern]

I've never understood the argument that Ainge should be given credit for "winning" that trade. It's like people grade that trade based on some imaginary non-headcase Kyrie rather than the dude who actually exists.

Kyrie wanting to leave the Cavs when he did should have been a giant red flag to any team thinking about acquiring him. But...Ainge saw only the talent.

We got a guy with a bad hip, but at least there was value in the rest of the package. Ainge got a guy with a messed-up head who didn't fit with the rest of that roster.

Maybe Ainge figured the "Celtics mystique" would be enough to bring Kyrie around. But he figured wrong, and that's on him.

In sort it was the draft pick the Cavs wanted but from what I was reading it was not the better deal.
Celtics made out after KI wanted out of there.But they have hit the crossroads now.
I am concerened about what Altman does now .
Not sure if it's true but I heard he has some trade expection(s).