Myles Garrett : NFL 2023 DPOY

[AZ_]

You've said the bolded multiple times now and it sure is a hell of a straw man to argue against.

Literally nobody has said they want to see Rudolph suspended because of Garrett's actions or the deserved punishment he received for them.

Would Browns fans be irate and demanding a suspension for Mason Rudolph based on his actions independent of Garrett's response?

I haven't seen anyone answer this question, which leads me to believe the answer is no.


Seems pretty silly, quite frankly.

 

[Chris]

And here we thought splashing beer on a dude would be the most heinous act this season?!

 

[Cassity14]

Would Browns fans be irate and demanding a suspension for Mason Rudolph based on his actions independent of Garrett's response?

I haven't seen anyone answer this question, which leads me to believe the answer is no.


Seems pretty silly, quite frankly.

I think Mason's Rudolph's actions warrant a suspension regardless of what he was hit with or if he was even hit at all.

Do you think Rudolph would have received a more severe punishment if he hadn't been hit with a helmet? I tend to think the answer is yes.

 

[AZ_]

I think Mason's Rudolph's actions warrant a suspension regardless of what he was hit with or if he was even hit at all.

Do you think Rudolph would have received a more severe punishment if he hadn't been hit with a helmet? I tend to think the answer is yes.

No, given that there is no precedent for it. As I've stated numerous times...

By your own example provided, Greg Robinson, he was not suspended. Robinson kicked a player in the head.

But now it DOES warrant a suspension?

Doesn't make sense at all.

 

[caf]

Moving this in here:



No, Ogunjobi went after a player with no helmet after the play was over and blindsided him to the ground.

Not equitable at all. If Rudolph blindsided a helmetless player during a scrum, he'd have cause to be suspended.

Nothing he did would warrant a suspension in any other circumstance (but would merit a flag/fine), the only reason Browns fans are relentlessly complaining about it is because of the severity of Garrett's actions and suspension.


Which is why it makes no logical sense.

Cleating a guy in the dick, and uppercutting a guy in the dick aren't suspension worthy? C'mon man.

 

[AZ_]

Cleating a guy in the dick, and uppercutting a guy in the dick aren't suspension worthy? C'mon man.

How hyperbolic are you guys going to get by the end of this saga?

Uncle.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

It's an indefinite suspension with a minimum of 6 games and (non-existent) playoff games . What's your definition of reduced in this case?

Limiting it to the rest of the regular season and post season.

The act was bad. But any more games than that, you're basically saying what Myles Garrett did was almost on par with domestic violence.

 

[caf]

His cleat literally went into Myles groin area. That's not hyperbole that is fact.

I know you think your opinion is the only one that matters and are king of morality. But facts don't care about your opinion.

 

[AZ_]

His clear literally went into Myles groin area. That's not hyperbole that is fact.

I know you think your opinion is the only one that matters and are king of morality. But facts don't care about your opinion.

And here we go with the outlandish personal attacks and all that bullshit...

This one is a real uppercut to my groin.


Enough.

 

[Soar]

I'm just glad we have such strong moral authorities on this site.

Who knew you could reach Nirvana and learn Browns football at the same time.

 

[AZ_]

Noting that Rudolph's conduct has no historical precedent for suspension isn't a "moral authority" problem.

Its just an uncomfortable reality for Browns fans unwilling or unable to be logical...

 

[Cassity14]

No, given that there is no precedent for it. As I've stated numerous times...

By your own example provided, Greg Robinson, he was not suspended. Robinson kicked a player in the head.

But now it DOES warrant a suspension?

Doesn't make sense at all.

Robinson was ejected halfway through the second quarter. He missed 2.5 quarters as punishment.

Rudolph's stuff happened with 8 seconds left in the game, so a 1 game suspension is really the only way to have a somewhat equal punishment, imo. Robinson didn't also charge the guy he kicked after the 2 had been separated (I don't think it's hyperbole to say that, do you?)

To be very clear, if the roles were reversed, I'd say Robinson should get a 1 game suspension had he kicked the titans player in the head with 8 seconds left in the game, and I wouldn't mind as much if Rudolph had been ejected prior to halftime.

I don't personally view fines as any sort of noteworthy punishment. A higher-paid teammate will pay that thing off.

EDIT (to save post space):

Noting that Rudolph's conduct has no historical precedent for suspension isn't a "moral authority" problem.

Its just an uncomfortable reality for Browns fans unwilling to be logical...

I don't like arguing precedent, specifically in this incident, because there's no precedence to suggest Garrett should receive an indefinite suspension. The NFL is anything but consistent when handing out punishments.

 

[AZ_]

Robinson was ejected halfway through the second quarter. He missed 2.5 quarters as punishment.

Rudolph's stuff happened with 8 seconds left in the game, so a 1 game suspension is really the only way to have a somewhat equal punishment, imo. Robinson didn't also charge the guy he kicked after the 2 had been separated (I don't think it's hyperbole to say that, do you?)

To be very clear, if the roles were reversed, I'd say Robinson should get a 1 game suspension had he kicked the titans player in the head with 8 seconds left in the game, and I wouldn't mind as much if Rudolph had been ejected prior to halftime.

I don't personally view fines as any sort of noteworthy punishment. A higher-paid teammate will pay that thing off.

EDIT (to save post space):
I don't like arguing precedent, specifically in this incident, because there's no precedence to suggest Garrett should receive an indefinite suspension. The NFL is anything but consistent when handing out punishments.

The Robinson situation and Rudolph's aren't equal.

So I'm not going to equate them. Suffice it to say, such a thing doesn't warrant a suspension, regardless of when it happened in the game.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

I don't really care if Rudolph got suspended either way. He blows and actively hurts the Steelers when he is on the field.

Let him play. I'd rather keep picking off his passes and pissing off Steelers fans.

 

[Cassity14]

The Robinson situation and Rudolph's aren't equal.

So I'm not going to equate them. Suffice it to say, such a thing doesn't warrant a suspension, regardless of when it happened in the game.

That's fine. I just wanted to clear up my reasoning based on your response to my question..

By your own example provided, Greg Robinson, he was not suspended. Robinson kicked a player in the head.

But now it DOES warrant a suspension?

Is there a relateable incident in which a player did what Rudolph did and wasn't punished for it outside of a fine? I admitted above that I'm not a fan of precedence, but I"m curious.