NBA Finals Game 4: Warriors @ Cavs, June 10, 2016, 9:00 PM EST

[Mr. Orange]

I really feel the pain for you Clevelanders, but you have to realize there is no shortcuts in building a winning team and franchise. It has to start from the front office, and trickle down to the last player...
This team can't be runned by LBJ as great as he is. He insisted on the Love trade, He is responsible for the outragous TT contract, He eliminated a good coach and so on...
When you don't do things the right way, you can have all the the talent in the world (which the Cavs do have, in my opinion we are the most talented team in the world) but you still won't win...

I really feel the pain for your mother.

Really. I do.

You said "runned"

 

[bob2the2nd]

Any chance someone has a video of the green lebron face off. The Q replay kept cutting out right as it looked like green threw a forearm at lebron. Also it looked like green hit love in the chest during the scrum right after that while Love was on the ground. I would appreciate any videos or input

 

[Gus Zing]

This is true. I didn't check but as long as we have 2 days of rest, history shows LeBron gets at least 1 road victory. Get this one and get back to the Q.

I was somehow counting on that stat if the Cavs won tonight, lost game 5 and won game 6..

sigh

Would suck to see us lose in 5. Would suck to see the Warriors celebrate on our home court.


Please let this go 7 games and for the Cavs to have play with a couple days of rest...

I remember being pissed how quick the turnaround was for game 6 as I knew LeBron and Delly wouldn't have any legs...

Well they could get it this year. But how the hell do we win game 5 is what I'm wondering.

 

[Gus Zing]

Any chance someone has a video of the green lebron face off. The Q replay kept cutting out right as it looked like green threw a forearm at lebron. Also it looked like green hit love in the chest during the scrum right after that while Love was on the ground. I would appreciate any videos or input

Green hit LeBron in the groin when he walked over him.

He should get a flagrant. But of course the refs won't do anything about it.

 

[Snarly]

Green hit LeBron in the groin when he walked over him.

He should get a flagrant. But of course the refs won't do anything about it.

I just spoke about this in another thread about how he gets away with this. In the Green thread I did. Lets just say Vegas is responsible for all this. It is all a money game and Green makes them money for being on the team they manufactured. There is a reason national media is driving them into clouds like gods.

 

[kookoo]

Cavs got punked on their home court. Every game now is a must win. You HAVE to come out with attitude next game and claw through screens and be physical from the get go. The more physical team has won every single game. And I think our offseason really needs to focus on physicality. The refs aren't going to call everything. Golden State is the only team that has taken advantage of it. It's time for us to do it consistently. If you're not going to play hard, might as well pack up.

 

[Snarly]

Cavs got punked on their home court. Every game now is a must win. You HAVE to come out with attitude next game and claw through screens and be physical from the get go. The more physical team has won every single game. And I think our offseason really needs to focus on physicality. The refs aren't going to call everything. Golden State is the only team that has taken advantage of it. It's time for us to do it consistently. If you're not going to play hard, might as well pack up.

Yeah do not think we will win out it might go to a game seven however as I been saying before this game even before last game I got some disturbing news so unless something changes yeah... It will happen just not this year. You will know when they start prepping us for it trust me and it might not even the Cavs to do it first for our city. So if it is this year and the Cavs come and pull this out you will see the signs pointing to it. That said again now I have to treat this sport like the WWF and just hope the script is in our favor.

 

[wajdi]

17/35 3p for GSW while shooting 16/45 2p!!!!

6/25 3p for the Cavs

This is all about! The new NBA era is all bout this! Make your 3p shots and you win it all!


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[Shumpmatic]

The NBA clearly didn't wanna take Green out of these playoffs


They clearly wanted to establish that GS was allowed to set the tone of physical play in every series. There was no set standard. It was how much do we let GS get away with before we start calling fouls for the other team.
Iv never seen this level of favoritism


I honestly don't want to watch the NBA next year


I definitely may find something better to do with my time

This comment deserves a standing ovation. I too will be done with the nba if we lose this series. Not giving up on the series yet. Oncr Green wasn't suspended for the Adams kick i knew these guys were playing by a different set of rules. I've never seen a superstar thr caliber of Lebron be more disrespected by officials in a series than this. Ask yourself why in the Raptors series, Demarre Carroll couldn't even touch Lebron without a foul being called but now Iggy gets away with everything. I refuse to be just another witness to the predetermined golden state fabricated "dynasty"

 

[Shumpmatic]

We have Kyrie, JR, Frye, KL, Delly. We should be able to shoot threes

Someone who gets it.

 

[ajz20]

I really feel the pain for you Clevelanders, but you have to realize there is no shortcuts in building a winning team and franchise. It has to start from the front office, and trickle down to the last player...
This team can't be runned by LBJ as great as he is. He insisted on the Love trade, He is responsible for the outragous TT contract, He eliminated a good coach and so on...
When you don't do things the right way, you can have all the the talent in the world (which the Cavs do have, in my opinion we are the most talented team in the world) but you still won't win...

Yeah a coach no one else wanted and will never get an NBA gig as the head guy. Get the hell out of here. The same guy that was bailed out by Lue from calling a timeout that would have put us down 3-1 to the Bulls?
We dont want or need your pity. Go cheer for Blatt in Turkey. Dont waste our time pretending to be one of us. No one is buying it dude. Go away!

 

[blank964]

I don't think it's even that.

I think Kevin Love is literally just not playable against Golden State. It really sucks. One team literally changes the way we feel.about a guy we traded for to be part of our big 3 . If we played OKC or S.A., Love would be much more playable , much more useful, and less criticized...but this Golden State team is the perfect storm and unfortunately for the Cavs that storm is happening during our peak championshop window.

At least we know that Kyrie is a fucking bonafide stuff and a good fit. But Love just doesn't bring what we need to the table to beat this Warriors team and it's painfully obvious.

At least in the first half we like, went to him in the post and got him good mismatches. He wasn't that bad, but all that we got in he 2nd half was Love trying his ass off defensively, which I give him personal credit for, but when he is running around the perimeter,he doesn't have the speed to agility to make up for all that space and he becomes invisible around the rim which is where we started getting destroyed.

The Warriors truly are a historically great team because the Cavs are really good and would probably have beaten OKC or SA like a drum but Golden State is just so fucking good.

I'm just sad, man.

This feels worse than when we lost to Boston or Orlando. I always had this terrible feeling when those loses happened because we would have to wait a year just to potentially be in that position again.

This time it's not just the fact that we'll have to wait until next year but it's the fact that the same team will be in our way again. Are we just going to be the annual last to lose team?

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[blazenmp]

Yeah do not think we will win out it might go to a game seven however as I been saying before this game even before last game I got some disturbing news so unless something changes yeah... It will happen just not this year. You will know when they start prepping us for it trust me and it might not even the Cavs to do it first for our city. So if it is this year and the Cavs come and pull this out you will see the signs pointing to it. That said again now I have to treat this sport like the WWF and just hope the script is in our favor.

I like your posts, but.. Bland is all I can say in this one.

 

[Snarly]

I like your posts, but.. Bland is all I can say in this one.

That is my mood... It sucks. I had and am having a good night but when you realize the politics that go into all of this it ruins your perspective. I hope in some way we pull this out and so far everything that I have been told or heard has come true... i mean we have another first place team in the city right now so that is good. Just watching Green do whatever he wants done it for me. I can watch that shit anymore... It is clear what we are seeing and it is not what I used to love. So I am kind of sad tonight. To those who have the faith keep it up though and I mean it.

What makes it worse and I know some of you can relate. My grandpa might not live for another year and all he wanted was a ring or title for this city and me. After watching what the NBA is now. Unless the Indians do it or the Cavs somehow say fuck everyone and do this he may not see one. For fucks sake the ones who had it the worst are never going to get to see it happen. So yeah the last talk I had with my grandpa was Indians pitching before he went in the hospital and if not Cavs I hope the Indians do it.

 

[Andrew]

Fuck. Wasted opportunity yet again. This shit is whack. I mean this team completely forgot what they did in the 1st half and just inverted the entire 2nd half.

This loss fucking hurts. Wow. This team lacked all the heart and hustle they showed in all the other games, especially game 3.

This shit isn't over but its becoming unlikely.


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