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Complete aside: was the Wyld Stallions thing a time loop, created by George Carlins character to prevent a possible horrible future? In the second movie, Bill and Teds phone booth appears in a future scape, and the people there look puzzled until they do their lil be excellent and air guitar routine. The people then mime it, and they go back into the phonebooth (I think it was the phone booth, might have been Death). I realize the whole movie is a stable time loop, but wonder if it was that visit that cemented the futures love for these two doofuses.
 
I am pumped for this movie. I really liked the original, but this looks really good. I am as excited as I can be for a movie whose story I already know.

 
The first Bill & Ted’s is an excellent comedy and always worth a view.

The second Bill & Ted’s is awful — I mean really, really awful.

The third “movie”, I have not seen and do not plan on watching it. The previews were enough to tell me it would be the equivalent of watching a dog take a shit on the hot sidewalk here in NYC.

You thought the second movie was awful?

I thought it superior to the first: It is bonkers and sublime.
 
Man was hoping someone would have commented on TEnet by now. The concept is fascinating and the way its portrayed is mesmerizing. You can tell Nolan really does put some serious thought into the various dimensions and tries to think outside our human understanding of them (in this case time

But lord, compared to any of his most confusing movies prior, this one takes the cake. Will definitely be watching when it comes out on dvd again.

A good movie. Very fresh.

But probably not in my top 5 Nolan flicks.
 
Man was hoping someone would have commented on TEnet by now. The concept is fascinating and the way its portrayed is mesmerizing. You can tell Nolan really does put some serious thought into the various dimensions and tries to think outside our human understanding of them (in this case time

But lord, compared to any of his most confusing movies prior, this one takes the cake. Will definitely be watching when it comes out on dvd again.

A good movie. Very fresh.

But probably not in my top 5 Nolan flicks.

Thought the same thing. I am also a massive fan of
time travel movies
and when the movie was done I got the jist, but had no idea how it worked. Had to read up and watch some breakdowns after to piece the idea together. Didn't notice a lot of things like the use of red and blue throughout. I definitely want to see it again after having all the pieces. Still struggling a bit with the final locked door scene. Biggest gripe was so little character development, but apparently the idea is it is supposed to mimic the idea of members of Tenet not supposed to know personal details of each other. Not ready to rank it quite yet before a second watch.
 
Thought the same thing. I am also a massive fan of
time travel movies
and when the movie was done I got the jist, but had no idea how it worked. Had to read up and watch some breakdowns after to piece the idea together. Didn't notice a lot of things like the use of red and blue throughout. I definitely want to see it again after having all the pieces. Still struggling a bit with the final locked door scene. Biggest gripe was so little character development, but apparently the idea is it is supposed to mimic the idea of members of Tenet not supposed to know personal details of each other. Not ready to rank it quite yet before a second watch.

Yea and now the whole red/blue thing is ingenious and makes the reveal at the end awesome.

But there's no way of picking up on that the first time viewing.

So, I dunno how to think of a movie that requires you to watch it multiple times to catch not just the little stuff, but the big stuff.

For me I still can't understand why they
Had to get the algorithm right that second. By killing himself, Sator was going to blow up the bomb and bury the algorithm for the future, yes? So why couldn't they just let him do that and then go dig it up at some later date?
 
Yea and now the whole red/blue thing is ingenious and makes the reveal at the end awesome.

But there's no way of picking up on that the first time viewing.

So, I dunno how to think of a movie that requires you to watch it multiple times to catch not just the little stuff, but the big stuff.

For me I still can't understand why they
Had to get the algorithm right that second. By killing himself, Sator was going to blow up the bomb and bury the algorithm for the future, yes? So why couldn't they just let him do that and then go dig it up at some later date?
Can certainly understand that perspective. Don't fault anyone on that side. Certainly a fine line there of what should be apparent on a first viewing. This movie definitely has quite a few main ideas that don't register on a first viewing.

This is a good question. Honestly would only be speculating, but can only say the answer I had in my head which made me not question it. I was under the impression this was buried extremely deep underground and was going to be dropped even deeper since it looked like there was a tube they were dropping it in down in the bunker. Have to imagine it would be heavily defended going forward, and with it being buried so deep, you not only would have to win another battle, but also dig all the way down while protecting it.
 
One criticism I saw of Nolan and I think it holds some merit is that his world-building is often glib. The world, the setting, are there only because they have to be.

But think about INterstellar or INception or now Tenet.

The setting is a distant thought. These are just places. Could be anywhere. There's nothing memorable about them and they take like 8 backseats to the plot.

Obviously the Batman films were different because they sorta have to be. And I'll say The Prestige (which is probably my favorite movie of all time) definitely focused on the setting far more than his more recent films. You felt like you were in 19th century London.
 
What was the problem with the settings in Interstellar?

I thought each of the places they went were extremely memorable and as well developed as one needed.

I can’t remember Inception very well.
 
You thought the second movie was awful?

I thought it superior to the first: It is bonkers and sublime.
No it's bad. All the sequel faults: beats the same jokes into the ground, turns the characters into tropes, etc. Death was the loan bright spot. As a kid I loved it, but probably never should have been allowed to watch them (what the hell was my mom, who wouldn't let me watch the Smurfs because they were satanic, letting me watch Bill and Ted?) and it just wasn't very good. I rewatched both over a year ago on Amazon Prime and I couldn't finish Bogus Journey without some skipping.
 
What was the problem with the settings in Interstellar?

I thought each of the places they went were extremely memorable and as well developed as one needed.

I can’t remember Inception very well.
Agreed. As far as Interstellar i thought the depiction of Earth as a dying planet was extremely accurate and super realistic depiction of a very likely scenario down the road . . .
 
No it's bad. All the sequel faults: beats the same jokes into the ground, turns the characters into tropes, etc. Death was the loan bright spot. As a kid I loved it, but probably never should have been allowed to watch them (what the hell was my mom, who wouldn't let me watch the Smurfs because they were satanic, letting me watch Bill and Ted?) and it just wasn't very good. I rewatched both over a year ago on Amazon Prime and I couldn't finish Bogus Journey without some skipping.

There seems to be a rather divided opinion of it.

I know people that swear by it in the same way Gremlins II was a masterpiece of satire and inverting expectations by simply going full nuts.
 
You thought the second movie was awful?

I thought it superior to the first: It is bonkers and sublime.

In my opinion — the first Bill & Ted’s was a really well written comedy. In my observation, it has stood the test of time and is still a funny movie today, as it was during my first few viewings as a youngster.That is an imporant personal metric — when i go back to 80’s or early 90’s comedies, do they still hold up? If it does, than youbhave a great movie, my friend!

To be honest, the second movie was flubby, lacked direction and quite frankly — just not memorable. For me, the first one was such a qualitycomedy that the sequel lacked creativity and felt it was made only because the forst one did so well. Sometimes, i get the sense that some movies were not meant to have sequels — clearly, that is the case for ol’ Bill and Ted (in my opinion).

It is important to note — I am no Siskel or Ebert and one man’s trash is another’s treasure!
 
fwiw Tenet had an awful opening weekend and caused Wonder Woman to delay its release yet again.

I think this is it for movie theaters and the entire movie industry model of A) releasing movies first for theatres, second for dvds, and third for television/streaming.
 
I see the board shares my same views on Tenet. Got back from a midday showing to which we were two of about 10 people in the theater. I enjoy challenging movies and all, but this was really tough. I say this as a guy who has taken a few college courses on film study where I had that hip professor who always pimped some abstract foreign films at us (shout out to Lars Von Trier). I'll also agree that a second viewing is probably required. I'm just not ready to embrace that frustration again so soon like I had here.

What is definitely recommended is a theater experience as the movie has some epic scopes to it. The action sequences (the highway chase) are stellar and the practical effects make them standout. As always, Nolan is a very skilled filmmaker, but I felt the conceit and concept trumped character and storytelling here, and that was the issue on why I don't hold this one in as high regard as other releases.
 

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