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Thanks for the clarification. I hope this rips Kornheiser a new asshole.
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Round 1, Game 1 | Cavaliers vs. Bulls | April 17, 2010 | 3:00 EST ABC
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Thanks for the clarification. I hope this rips Kornheiser a new asshole.
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Except for the court vision, Rose lacks that.
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I went to the game today and it was sick. Best time ever. The only thing that i hate especially in the playoffs is when the announcer wants the crowd to chant defense or something like that and the the crowd just doesnt get into it. Playoff time the crowds got to be all in it from the tip to the end. Other than that the game was amazing. During some parts the crowd was loud as hell. Im going to remember this one for a while.
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Rose has great vision, nobody to pass to. If you give him a pick and roll big like Amare, or a pick and pop guy like Bosh and then get him a three point assassin at the 2 or 3; he will average 9+ assists per game, easily.
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UH, LeBron had no one to pass to and averaged 7 assists early in his career. Rose just doesn't have great court vision, he doesn't really make his teammates better. Chris Paul doesn't have all of those weapons you mentioned and he consistently averages 10-11 assists per game. Rose is a good point guard but I see him more as a scoring point.
Why does it get quiet when a game at the Q gets tight?
1) Longtime Cleveland sports fans run replays of past failure in their heads and space out to the bad vibes.
2) The fat cat/frontrunner types in the stands don't want anything competitive.They are looking for Lebron dunks/blocks/ highlight assists, another drink and more food.
3) Do you really expect to get the passion from the fans at the cost of the playoff tickets? Those hardcore fans in attendance are far from the court .
1) Longtime Cleveland sports fans run replays of past failure in their heads and space out to the bad vibes.
2) The fat cat/frontrunner types in the stands don't want anything competitive.They are looking for Lebron dunks/blocks/ highlight assists, another drink and more food.
3) Do you really expect to get the passion from the fans at the cost of the playoff tickets? Those hardcore fans in attendance are far from the court .
Windhorst:
Bulls have some things to build on for Game 2: Windhorst Beat Blog
By Brian Windhorst, The Plain Dealer
April 17, 2010, 8:30PM
UPDATED: 8:30 p.m.
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Thoughts following the Cavs' 96-83 Game 1 victory over the Chicago Bulls:
• Whenever a team falls behind in a series it is routine to look for positives, especially when you are the underdog. The Bulls, despite never really being in Game 1, will not have to search the game film for them. For a team being given no chance in this series, they probably have reason to even be mildly cheerful for Game 2.
Why?
1. The Bulls outscored the Cavs over the final THREE quarters. Only by a point, yes, but it wasn't like they made it all up in junk time in the final three minutes.
2. For all the rebounding issues the Bulls had against the Cavs' huge front line, the Bulls actually won the rebound battle in the second half.
3. By packing the paint and daring the Cavs to shoot, the Bulls held the Cavs to 41 percent shooting in the second half. It may not be a good idea to leave a good 3-point shooting team with that many open looks, but it is a pretty good idea against the Cavs, who often just quit running offense.
4. Derrick Rose seemingly had a great game. But really he has a lot he can improve on. He took 28 shots, which is probably too many considering how the Cavs were throwing bodies at him. He dodged contact, getting to the line just once. And he had seven turnovers, a number he can cut down with ease with a little more concentration.
5. Luol Deng didn't give the Bulls much of anything. He was 5-of-15 and had no assists and was just 2-of-5 at the foul line.
Are the Bulls going to turn this series around? Probably not. But they have a fair chance to win a game and the way they played down the stretch was proof of that.
• It is a bizzare circumstance for a player who started 73 games to barely get in the first playoff game. That is the case for J.J. Hickson. While Mike Brown probably should look for a chance to play Hickson, it is hard to argue after seeing the way the Cavs' bigs dominated in this game. Trust that Hickson will be needed and he will play. Depending on the opponent, he might play a lot. But take this opportunity to consider that the Cavs won 61 games using what amounts to a fill-in starter in Hickson for 73 of the games.
• If it looked like the Bulls weren't even covering Anthony Parker, they weren't. Their scouting report is telling them that he is a player you can risk not guarding. Earlier in the season when he was leading the NBA in 3-point shooting, that would have been insane. But it has been a long time since that was the case. Parker shot just 23-of-74 (31 percent) on 3-pointers over the last 22 games of the season. In this one he was 1-of-6. He will continue to get those looks until he makes the Bulls regret it.
• Funny moment in the second half when Shaquille O'Neal went into the stands and picked up a fan like a rag doll. Only he wasn't a fan, he was part owner Nate Forbes. Forbes is a developer who is based in Michigan and was sitting next to Jeff Cohen, a Michigan-based builder. Along with Dan Gilbert, a mortgage man (are you seeing how these guys hooked up and, oh, I don't know, could work together on a casino project?), these are the three men who truly serve as the Cavs' ownership group. There are other miniority owners, including a group from China, and Gordon Gund but these three men make a lot of the decisions. Only Forbes and Cohen shun the spotlight, until today.
Recap:
The Cavaliers were brilliant for about 30 minutes Saturday and merely adequate the rest of the way, but that was plenty to provide a successful start to their NBA title quest on Saturday.
• The Bulls finished with something to build on for Game 2. They were able to get the Cavs to settle for jumpers for most of the second half and it allowed them to hold the score down.
The Cavaliers' defense did a strong job on most of the Bulls Saturday. Forward Luol Deng managed just 12 points on 5-of-15 shooting, often getting a double-team look from Delonte West and Mo Williams.
• Shaquille O'Neal seemed to run out of gas a bit after he hit the 20-minute mark on the court. That was expected after he had not played for nearly two months. Cavs coach Mike Brown had planned to play him at least 28 minutes, but decided to pull him after 24 as O'Neal started slowing down. O'Neal's minutes will likely edge up as the games go on.
• LeBron James did not have a prolific game by his standards and was not much of a force in the second half. He scored just five points in the fourth quarter and 10 points in the second half. The Cavs didn't need him as much after getting strong games from Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams and O'Neal, among others.
Bulls have some things to build on for Game 2: Windhorst Beat Blog
By Brian Windhorst, The Plain Dealer
April 17, 2010, 8:30PM
UPDATED: 8:30 p.m.
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Thoughts following the Cavs' 96-83 Game 1 victory over the Chicago Bulls:
• Whenever a team falls behind in a series it is routine to look for positives, especially when you are the underdog. The Bulls, despite never really being in Game 1, will not have to search the game film for them. For a team being given no chance in this series, they probably have reason to even be mildly cheerful for Game 2.
Why?
1. The Bulls outscored the Cavs over the final THREE quarters. Only by a point, yes, but it wasn't like they made it all up in junk time in the final three minutes.
2. For all the rebounding issues the Bulls had against the Cavs' huge front line, the Bulls actually won the rebound battle in the second half.
3. By packing the paint and daring the Cavs to shoot, the Bulls held the Cavs to 41 percent shooting in the second half. It may not be a good idea to leave a good 3-point shooting team with that many open looks, but it is a pretty good idea against the Cavs, who often just quit running offense.
4. Derrick Rose seemingly had a great game. But really he has a lot he can improve on. He took 28 shots, which is probably too many considering how the Cavs were throwing bodies at him. He dodged contact, getting to the line just once. And he had seven turnovers, a number he can cut down with ease with a little more concentration.
5. Luol Deng didn't give the Bulls much of anything. He was 5-of-15 and had no assists and was just 2-of-5 at the foul line.
Are the Bulls going to turn this series around? Probably not. But they have a fair chance to win a game and the way they played down the stretch was proof of that.
• It is a bizzare circumstance for a player who started 73 games to barely get in the first playoff game. That is the case for J.J. Hickson. While Mike Brown probably should look for a chance to play Hickson, it is hard to argue after seeing the way the Cavs' bigs dominated in this game. Trust that Hickson will be needed and he will play. Depending on the opponent, he might play a lot. But take this opportunity to consider that the Cavs won 61 games using what amounts to a fill-in starter in Hickson for 73 of the games.
• If it looked like the Bulls weren't even covering Anthony Parker, they weren't. Their scouting report is telling them that he is a player you can risk not guarding. Earlier in the season when he was leading the NBA in 3-point shooting, that would have been insane. But it has been a long time since that was the case. Parker shot just 23-of-74 (31 percent) on 3-pointers over the last 22 games of the season. In this one he was 1-of-6. He will continue to get those looks until he makes the Bulls regret it.
• Funny moment in the second half when Shaquille O'Neal went into the stands and picked up a fan like a rag doll. Only he wasn't a fan, he was part owner Nate Forbes. Forbes is a developer who is based in Michigan and was sitting next to Jeff Cohen, a Michigan-based builder. Along with Dan Gilbert, a mortgage man (are you seeing how these guys hooked up and, oh, I don't know, could work together on a casino project?), these are the three men who truly serve as the Cavs' ownership group. There are other miniority owners, including a group from China, and Gordon Gund but these three men make a lot of the decisions. Only Forbes and Cohen shun the spotlight, until today.
Recap:
The Cavaliers were brilliant for about 30 minutes Saturday and merely adequate the rest of the way, but that was plenty to provide a successful start to their NBA title quest on Saturday.
• The Bulls finished with something to build on for Game 2. They were able to get the Cavs to settle for jumpers for most of the second half and it allowed them to hold the score down.
The Cavaliers' defense did a strong job on most of the Bulls Saturday. Forward Luol Deng managed just 12 points on 5-of-15 shooting, often getting a double-team look from Delonte West and Mo Williams.
• Shaquille O'Neal seemed to run out of gas a bit after he hit the 20-minute mark on the court. That was expected after he had not played for nearly two months. Cavs coach Mike Brown had planned to play him at least 28 minutes, but decided to pull him after 24 as O'Neal started slowing down. O'Neal's minutes will likely edge up as the games go on.
• LeBron James did not have a prolific game by his standards and was not much of a force in the second half. He scored just five points in the fourth quarter and 10 points in the second half. The Cavs didn't need him as much after getting strong games from Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams and O'Neal, among others.
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I'm not hating. Rose is a great player but I just don't see that court vision or feel for the game that LeBron has. It is not a knock on Rose if he is not as good as LeBron at something....
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Of all the people you would use as a comparison, you use Chris Paul? You do realize that Chris Paul plays in a system where the only thing they do all day is run pick and rolls, and pick and pops with Paul? I'm not trying to hate on Paul, but if the Bulls played a system that relied on PnRing or PnPing with DRose exclusively, 9 assists a game is nowhere near out of reach for someone as talented as Rose.
The kid has great passing ability and court vision, especially for a second year player. I don't understand what the need is to bash someone that clearly has a great future ahead of him. As Cavs fans we get tired of people doing that to Lebron, but we don't hesitate the least to totally rip up any other player not wearing wine and gold. Appreciate talent for what it's worth, our league is well on the way to the glory days of the mid-late 80's and early 90's with every team being stacked with all-stars and future HoF'ers.
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That's exactly what Chicago does, play pick in rolls with Noah and Rose. They pick and pop with Miller and Rose. Stop acting like you're some guru. We all know that Rose has the ball in his hands just as much as CP3 does for NO, but Rose decides to look to score more than pass. It's his choice.
BTW I am not bashing the kid, I think he is a great player. I was only saying he doesn't have LeBron's court vision. That's not hating...
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First off, the reason i got quiet personally is because I just had flashbacks of disaster in Cleveland. I got worried. But when we did something I was on my feet instantly.
I got on the big screen with my I Love The Hype LBJ Goosie shirt too, that was a good moment...I was doing the PROPER goosie as well.
That being said, this was my first time seeing LeBron in person IN Cleveland. I was like a kid in a candy store. From the intro, to the fire, to the dunks, to the "Noah sucks" I was just going crazy. One of the best sporting days of my life...and then seeing the Tribe win! Haha.
Cleveland is a city of diehard fans who want to see a championship...we hunger for one. We were all ready this afternoon and the electricity in the building showed it. We were All Together.
(the shirt is cool too.)
I got on the big screen with my I Love The Hype LBJ Goosie shirt too, that was a good moment...I was doing the PROPER goosie as well.
That being said, this was my first time seeing LeBron in person IN Cleveland. I was like a kid in a candy store. From the intro, to the fire, to the dunks, to the "Noah sucks" I was just going crazy. One of the best sporting days of my life...and then seeing the Tribe win! Haha.
Cleveland is a city of diehard fans who want to see a championship...we hunger for one. We were all ready this afternoon and the electricity in the building showed it. We were All Together.
(the shirt is cool too.)