Round 2 - Game 4 | LeBronto Raptors @ Cleveland Cavaliers | May 7th, 2018 8:30 PM [EST]

[KilgoreTrout]

Need a time-out here, to stop Raps’ momentum!

 

[Certo17]

FLOP!!!

 

[MFRONE]

That’s not a foul, Love is allowed to move

 

[Rick Astley]

Is it me or Siakam looks like he wants to be the captain of this boat now?

 

[Kizzle]

You gotta give him somewhere to go

 

[Certo17]

BS REFS!

 

[red.]

OH GOD. Another TRASH CALL.

 

[FrontPageNews]

Lebron up 20 just admitted to his first foul of his career.

 

[MediumBaller]

Refs are going to try their fucking hardest to bring Toronto back.

 

[Dr. Gymbo]

 

[red.]

LMFAO. Refs won't let the Cavs be great.

JUST A DISGRACE! Fuck the REFS. ALL BALL!!!!!

 

[CosmoKramer]

When Love is playing well defensively as the only big on the floor with LeBron we're really hard to beat. When he's also hitting his shots we're the best team in the league

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

I don't think Toronto should completely blow this whole team up, but part with Lowry or DeRozen and try desperately to get a player like Kawhi. And fire the whole coaching staff.

They have no package that could land Kawhi, IMO. Lots of "decent, but not great" young players.


Lowry doesnt have great trade value. DeRozan's had risen big time but this series proves his "new game" is pretty fraudulent and he's still a choke artist(I'd actually give em our 2022 first+second top 10 protected in both rounds and for like 4 years until it conveys or turns into multiple 2nd rounds, plus expiring money, plus Rodney Hood for DeRozan....and maybe take a bad deal? Maybe more expiring money for Lowry and give them a chance to blow it up? I like that backcourt if they're you're 3rd and 4th best players. I actually think the Raps might try and trade one, probably Lowry, this summer for expiring money and maybe a decent young player and a late first? I think there's a potential Kyle Lowry trade out there for us, IF you think he's a playoff upgrade over George Hill, because remember he's gonna have 1 extra year after next season at like 32 million fully guarantee... I dunno. I would consider some kind of Lowry deal, if he was kinda cheap(No Brooklyn pick...Really would be hesitant to even talk about Cedi or Ante there because we need cheap production for somewhere. I would totally 100% S&T Rodney Hood as part of the deal in heartbeat if they had any interest in him. I think he is very likely to be traded if Bron stays. Tough because he's a restricted free agent, but he's young and talented and despite how rough he's looked here, he really is a much better player than he's shown. But anyways, basically I would highly consider taking on Lowry for the right price)

I actually think Toronto's best hope is that LeBron leaves the East...but I don't see that team beating a healthy Boston? Or Philly even if they don't get LBJ...they have room and will get SOMEBODY..attractive situation for some guys...Kawhi, George, etc?

In all reality they are gonna probably have to move one of Lowry or DeRozan. Moving Lowry and starting VanVleet makes the most sense. Kinda stinks for them because Lowry at least showed a pinch of testicular fortitude this series whereas DeRozan did not. But if they could move Lowry and Ibaka for the minimum incoming salary possible that is also expiring, while also picking up a future 1st? and 1 young guy? I don't wan't Ibaka though. But that is going to be a very tough contract to move. Their best bet might be OKC....they might be able to trade Ibaka for Melo, but Melo might still have a NTC...and I think Toronto would be silly to start him...but I would move Ibaka for Melo just for the expiring money and then buy Melo out or send him home. Or trade him again, they could probably always get Ryan Anderson or two of Portalnd's not so great contracts for him

Toronto is just really fucked. No way their ownership wants to pay the tax to get dicked by LeBron every year. If LeBron stays with the Cavs or even stays in the East...I think the Raptors would be best served by blowing it up completely...but they have to at least get out of the tax and get off of Ibaka and Lowry's final years and acquire at least 1 future first round pick and 1 future 2nd round pick.


Add them to the list of teams/eras destroyed by LeBron James. Joining the "big 3" in Washington of Antawn Jamison, Gilbert Arenas, and Caron Butler. Throw the George/Hill/Hibbert/West Pacers teams in there. The 4 all star Budenholzer Hawks. Eventually killed the Celtics Big 3, though they bested him a couple times. The Pistons team that were the perennial ECF participants. The IT Celtics. I know I'm missing some.

 

[MFRONE]

Hand checking is not allowed in the league, why are the refs allowing Toronto to do it every time down the court?

 

[brownsbuck6]

I mean.. LBJ saying that was a foul and I’m still not convinced.