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You don’t have to overthink it. We chose to let Hill and Kelce get theirs in our game.

Hill only got his because of an insanely busted coverage where Mahomes threw an absolutely terrible pass that happened to work out because John Johnson fucked up.
 
Hill only got his because of an insanely busted coverage where Mahomes threw an absolutely terrible pass that happened to work out because John Johnson fucked up.
I want to agree just cause the one play resulted in a TD. And if you take away the touchdown he got off that play you win the game..

However if you take away that play he still caught an additional 10 balls for about 120 yards… Combine that with Kelce and they still caught 16 balls for 200 yards….(without that 75 yard TD from Hill)

Even without that play— that’s not really a good enough scheme to win more times than not against that team…
 
Yes, and Baltimore would have lost if KC's shitty running back didn't fumble.
Nice man what is so hard to understand about the fact that the thing you are openly yearning for yielded worse overall results. At home. With a better unit.

I really don't understand how @Los216 doesn't understand this. The Browns had 3 TOs and were driving to win a game on the road when the 3rd happened. Kansas City put up bigger numbers on the road, against a much better defense, and were driving to win when their second TO ended the game. Other than a fluky interception (which, just in play, looked similar to Baker's against KC), Mahomes played a better game. He played a better game by throwing to something like 10 receivers against Baltimore instead of 3-4 against the Browns.
 
I really don't understand how @Los216 doesn't understand this. The Browns had 3 TOs and were driving to win a game on the road when the 3rd happened. Kansas City put up bigger numbers on the road, against a much better defense, and were driving to win when their second TO ended the game. Other than a fluky interception (which, just in play, looked similar to Baker's against KC), Mahomes played a better game. He played a better game by throwing to something like 10 receivers against Baltimore instead of 3-4 against the Browns.

That doesn't matter because CLE and BAL are two different defenses. BAL also has way more guys banged up on defense than we do.

Plus, the point is not that Mahomes played better against BAL. The point is you have to pick you poison and I don't think letting Kelce and Hill sit in your soft zones all game is ever going to be the correct option.
 
That still doesn’t change my point. We let Hill and Kelce run wild. Had we just zeroed in on Hill or Kelce and forced the others to step up like tonight, we would’ve won that game.

We never even considered doing this in our game. Never.
I don't know how much difference that made since Kelce and Pringle and their other guys just replicated what Hill usually does. I think what they did that was more important was the layered rush keeping Mahomes from stepping up and escaping the pocket at times. But it still took a fluke fumble for them to win. It took a couple fluke plays for the Chiefs to beat the Browns. I think if the Browns coupled their soft zone with some kind of layered rush to contain Mahomes, they would have won the game.
 
I don't know how much difference that made since Kelce and Pringle and their other guys just replicated what Hill usually does.

This is the part that @Los216 seems to stubborn to realize. Take the names off the jerseys and the results are still the same. "Stop" Hill, but the other 9 receivers produce the same numbers. Like those Warriors I referenced, if you "stop" Klay, they don't score fewer points, you just get beat by Steph, Durant, Draymond, Iguodala, etc. Like you, and others, said, if not for a fluke INT and RB fumble (which similarly cost the Browns), Kansas City wins despite "stopping" Hill.
 
Collinsworth is on record being into 14-year old girls so that’s why I would doubt it I guess
 
I don’t think it’s funny to say that Lamar is a run first qb. He has more passing attempts but every single time the ravens NEED a play it’s with Lamar’s legs. They obviously don’t trust him in crucial situations to throw with the game on the line, nor should they as he’s an extremely mediocre QB who is also the best athlete in the NFL.

There’s a reason he hasn’t been paid yet. the ravens know the window with Lamar is not at all large. They’d be out of their fucking minds to do a 10 year deal.

how anyone can watch a meaningful ravens game and think that they have full faith in him as a passer is beyond me. It’s fine to say it when he’s shredding the bengals in meaningless games, but when push comes to shove the play call is always the same.
 
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