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I don't think Gruden is homophobic.

I think he's a Baby Boomer straight dude in sports. And I think for athletes and sports folks, even young guys coming up into college, have a sense of humor that involves making jokes about the gays.

I think it is just typical locker room talk and not indicative of Gruden being an active homophobe along the lines of guys who beat up gay guys or actively donate money to Focus on the Family and shit.

And, not to get political, maybe he has a point about Michael Sam.

All that said, I cannot believe he was stupid enough to commit such thoughts to writing. Dumb.
People don't understand emails from Anywhere, USA are routed through servers in Chicago, then China, and then sent to DC and those emails are typically remaining on those servers for years or forever. Be careful what you put in an email or on social media, it might cost you 80+ million later in life.
 
This is called being a fan.
You can be a fan and still be rational though. It doesn't make anyone less of a fan to admit that right now, Baker isn't in the same stratosphere as Lamar. Most aren't, and that's ok. Baker just needs to be solid for us and I think most would say we have the better overall team. We'll see whats good come 11/28 . . .
 
People don't understand emails from Anywhere, USA are routed through servers in Chicago, then China, and then sent to DC and those emails are typically remaining on those servers for years or forever. Be careful what you put in an email or on social media, it might cost you 80+ million later in life.

You could just try not being racist or homophobic.
 
You've gotta be stupid to put anything incriminating in writing, text, or video. Like a special kind of dumb. Wild to me there are still people who don't get this.
 
You could just try not being racist or homophobic.
That too ....but point is, people are just stupid and racist, and homophobic, and misogynistic. And at some point in life I bet most people on this board have said that could be categorized as such. Not defending him, because what he did was also extremely unprofessional even if not employed by the NFL at the time.
 
Come on Los...how many non-Cavs fans bash LeBron? I can name a handful from just my Chicago-area friends.

Browns fans are allowed to hate on Lamar. He is a rare athlete that you claim you wanted with the first pick. So cheers to you.
 
That too ....but point is, people are just stupid and racist, and homophobic, and misogynistic. And at some point in life I bet most people on this board have said that could be categorized as such. Not defending him, because what he did was also extremely unprofessional even if not employed by the NFL at the time.

I can’t speak for everyone else, but I’ve never sent a work email like that, nor would I ever send anything like that to someone else’s work email. Hell, even if you scrubbed through my entire personal email, I doubt you’d find anything worth firing me from my job over. Certainly nothing from the past fifteen years, and unlike Gruden, fifteen years ago I was a college kid so I’d at least have an excuse for some immaturity.
 

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