Super Bowl LVI - Ohio vs Odell

[Los216]

 

[Los216]

 

[Ohio]

 

[Sticker114]

I don't necessarily have an opinion on what happens to Gruden but I just still am baffled by the NFL and where it's 'inexcusable behavior' line is located. I mean, you've got guys like Tyreke Hill, Mixon, Antonio Brown. Hell, even Kareem Hunt. All missed a season at most and then they're right back on the field collecting their millions. Any statement the NFL tries to make on these sorts of matters is just completely meaningless to me

 

[Sticker114]

I don't necessarily have an opinion on what happens to Gruden but I just still am baffled by the NFL and where it's 'inexcusable behavior' line is located. I mean, you've got guys like Tyreke Hill, Mixon, Antonio Brown. Hell, even Kareem Hunt. All missed a season at most and then they're right back on the field collecting their millions. Any statement the NFL tries to make on these sorts of matters is just completely meaningless to me

The NFL is about as good at explaining it's behavioral policies as it is at defining watch constitutes a catch

 

[Real Deal]

Buccaneers erased Gruden. They employ Antonio Brown for crying out loud, and they sure as hell didn't erase Warren Sapp who's done criminal activities.

The power of social media in today's cancel culture world.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Buccaneers erased Gruden. They employ Antonio Brown for crying out loud, and they sure as hell didn't erase Warren Sapp who's done criminal activities.

The power of social media in today's cancel culture world.

Used to be cancel culture was just called the consequences of your actions.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

This was interesting to me. If the season is looking to be lost, which history says it will be with the 1-4 start, do they sit Wentz even if he's healthy enough to play to save that draft pick?

One of two of these things needs to happen for the pick to transfer from a 2nd to a 1st:

• Carson Wentz plays 75% of the Colts offensive snaps
• Carson Wentz plays 70% of the Colts offensive snaps and the team makes the playoffs.

 

[2 For The Brew]

I don't necessarily have an opinion on what happens to Gruden but I just still am baffled by the NFL and where it's 'inexcusable behavior' line is located. I mean, you've got guys like Tyreke Hill, Mixon, Antonio Brown. Hell, even Kareem Hunt. All missed a season at most and then they're right back on the field collecting their millions. Any statement the NFL tries to make on these sorts of matters is just completely meaningless to me

Anyone in a supervisory role should be held to a higher standard. An individual contributor is a problem, but a boss makes decisions on personnel and therefore limits are tighter and consequences more severe.

The irony is that the only openly gay player is on Gruden’s team and of course there are lots of African Americans on the team but the NFL can’t have someone as head coach with that awful email trail. It’s especially bad that Gruden, with ESPN at the time, sent those emails to an Exec with the Redskins of all teams. Really bad look for Washington as well.

 

[Real Deal]

@Jack Brickman

Yeah, and players get 2nd, 3rd, and 4th chances to repair their image. Didn't Incognito do some racial bullying shit? I forget, maybe it wasn't a race issue at all, maybe I'm thinking of another player.

People make mistakes 10 years ago, 11 years ago, 3 years ago, take accountability but be given a chance to earn forgiveness.

 

[DirtyDan]

This was interesting to me. If the season is looking to be lost, which history says it will be with the 1-4 start, do they sit Wentz even if he's healthy enough to play to save that draft pick?

One of two of these things needs to happen for the pick to transfer from a 2nd to a 1st:

• Carson Wentz plays 75% of the Colts offensive snaps
• Carson Wentz plays 70% of the Colts offensive snaps and the team makes the playoffs.

What an odd situation to be in. It's going to be a hard decision if they can rack up some wins and hold on to wildcard aspirations. The difference between the Titans and Colts records isn't a massive hurdle yet either. There's still a chance, however small, the division may be in play.

 

[Benway]

I kind of remember Incognito as using racial epithets in a pseudo-motivational strategy. Whether it was service to his own furtive pleasure or an advanced psychological motivational tactic is a question best left to the more informed.

 

[Lee]

I kind of remember Incognito as using racial epithets in a pseudo-motivational strategy. Whether it was service to his own furtive pleasure or an advanced psychological motivational tactic is a question best left to the more informed.

I dont know if Incognito gets that 2nd chance today, or John Rocker, and for sure if they were in coaching and not players, that 2nd chance probably never comes.

There is also a big difference on perception of the wrong doing of a player vs coach.

 

[DirtyDan]

I dont know if Incognito gets that 2nd chance today, or John Rocker, and for sure if they were in coaching and not players, that 2nd chance probably never comes.

There is also a big difference on perception of the wrong doing of a player vs coach.

Wasn't it Gruden that gave Incognito a second chance?

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[prf100]

@Jack Brickman

Yeah, and players get 2nd, 3rd, and 4th chances to repair their image. Didn't Incognito do some racial bullying shit? I forget, maybe it wasn't a race issue at all, maybe I'm thinking of another player.

People make mistakes 10 years ago, 11 years ago, 3 years ago, take accountability but be given a chance to earn forgiveness.

Jon Gruden was 48 ten years ago. He's not some kid, or even an immature adult. He was the most powerful football man in the organization. To Gruden's credit, he's started doing the right thing by resigning.