The Kevin Stefanski: Two-Time Coach of the Year Thread

[FrontPageNews]

Ok, now swap Drew Brees with Jacoby Brissett or Baker Mayfield and give me your opinion on how good of coach Sean Payton is.

Drew Brees had a dead arm the last 2 years and the saints were still good because Payton new how to scheme for his situation.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Drew Brees had a dead arm the last 2 years and the saints were still good because Payton new how to scheme for his situation.

The Browns have a better offense with Brissett than those Saints teams had with Brees.

Stefanski is the superior offensive playcaller and I'm not sure it's close.

 

[FrontPageNews]

The Browns have a better offense with Brissett than those Saints teams had with Brees.

Stefanski is the superior offensive playcaller and I'm not sure it's close.

How many TE runs did Payton call?

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Drew Brees had a dead arm the last 2 years and the saints were still good because Payton new how to scheme for his situation.

Drew Brees is also a HOF QB and was a Pro Bowler prior to Payton. Dead arm Drew Brees is still better than Baker or Brissett. I don’t know how people think Stefanski isn’t scheming well for this situation. Blows my mind to be honest.

In Payton’s lone year without Brees they went 9-8. There was also a stretch in the middle of Brees’ career where the Saints were under .500 4 of 5 seasons. A lot of coaches would probably get fired now for doing that with a QB like Brees. Payton’s a great coach, but I just don’t think he’s the guy you’ve made him out to be in your head.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

How many TE runs did Payton call?

Far, far more than we have. Like orders of magnitude more.

You're aware Taysom Hill exists, right?

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Drew Brees is also a HOF QB and was a Pro Bowler prior to Payton. Dead arm Drew Brees is still better than Baker or Brissett. I don’t know how people think Stefanski isn’t scheming well for this situation. Blows my mind to be honest.

In Payton’s lone year without Brees they went 9-8. There was also a stretch in the middle of Brees’ career where the Saints were under .500 4 of 5 seasons. A lot of coaches would probably get fired now for doing that with a QB like Brees. Payton’s a great coach, but I just don’t think he’s the guy you’ve made him out to be in your head.

Hey, the guy won a Super Bowl 13 years ago. He must be the guy to join our young, up and coming franchise! He fits right in!

 

[Mr. Orange]

We aren’t talking about scheme. It’s about playcalling in game, situational awareness, team discipline, and game day motivation. StefanskiBot lacks all of those in spades.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Go home troll

 

[Jack Brickman]

How many TE runs did Payton call?

Legit have you ever actually watched the Saints play? Because it certainly seems like you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. They probably did more TE runs per game than Stefanski has done in three years as a head coach.

 

[NorthCoastBias]

Why must you guys engage posters who have no interest in making good faith arguments?

 

[FrontPageNews]

Far, far more than we have. Like orders of magnitude more.

You're aware Taysom Hill exists, right?

Taysom hill isn’t njoku. Hill is basically a run pass option. Running njoku is just wasting a down.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

The only problem with Stefanski’s offense is that the drives are so long and sustained that it shortens the game, which keeps games close even when the Browns are dominating. It’s a rich problem. Stefanki’s defense, on the other hand, is awful late in games. (And yes, it’s his D since he can fire Woods whenever he wants).

This is a big part of the reason I think the "just wait until we play good teams we are gonna lose by a million!!!" takes are so off

I think there's a real shot all of our games are 1 possession games (take out Ward's touchdown against the Yinzers)

People will say we play up/down to our competition, but honestly we just shorten the game so damn much that there's more room for variance.

If you have 2 teams and each gets 100 drives in an untimed game, the better team is gonna win the overwhelming majority of the time. If you have 2 teams and each gets 3 drives in an untimed game, the variance just went up a ton.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Taysom hill isn’t njoku.

No shit sherlock.

Hill is basically a run pass option. Running njoku is just wasting a down.

The Njoku end-around actually worked beautifully as others pointed out--it was blocked perfectly down field and Njoku is fast and strong enough to make people pay. He just didn't execute.

From a coach's perspective, they succeeded. It just sucks that Njoku didn't hit the blocks.

But, put that blown play aside. I absolutely cannot understand the way your brains work. When I watched that live on Sunday, my thoughts were "Fuck, that sucked. Oh well, it's on tape for some reason down the road." I don't see a single mention of how NFL play calling actually works from the knuckle draggers bemoaning a singular play for a loss.

First off, that one play didn't lose the game. So fuck right off with that.

Second, NFL staffs often run sub-optimal plays because it's part of a more complex scheme that sets up other things. Watch the down and distance, the set and the motion used leading up to that Njoku end-around. It's now on film so other teams are aware of it. At some point this season, we're going to be running out of a similar situation and run something that isn't an end-around to Njoku.

Sometimes you put things on film to open up other things later on.

Do people honestly not understand this?

Have you ever watched a Rams game? They might call something that looks like the exact same play 15 times a game. Fuck, they run basic flood concepts for the majority of their passing downs. When you can build options and wrinkles off identical looks, you can make a defense second-guess you and blow a play.

It's the same way Bieber throws three pitches out of the exact same tunnel. The dude isn't throwing 97. He shouldn't be blowing people away. But all of his pitches look identical coming out of his hand so the batter has no idea what's coming. He might set you up with a fastball out of the zone because he knows that he's going to get you out with the circle change.

 

[buzzdog]

Honest question here, is any criticism of Stefanski allowed in this discussion, or only praise and compliments?

 

[BMAN]

Honest question here, is any criticism of Stefanski allowed in this discussion, or only praise and compliments?

Sounds like you want to say some shit but not deal with any pushback. That’s not how forums work.