The Kevin Stefanski: Two-Time Coach of the Year Thread

[FrontPageNews]

There is no reason brissett should see the field unless there’s an injury. You don’t do cutesy stuff with your star qb. There’s nothing brissett can do that Watson can’t. I could almost understand wanting the fear of a sneak if you had an immobile qb that wasn’t a running risk. But Watson is one of the best in the game with his legs. I could understand if they needed a big arm just to throw the ball into the end zone. What watsons arm is way better than brissett. There’s no reason to ever have brissett in the game when Watson is healthy.

 

[Kiddo]

The 4th and one play call was likely the worst call of Kevin's career. Brissett might have the worst completion % of all QB's this season and you throw it deep? WTF. That play had a less than 5% chance of being completed. Classic case of the "smartest" guy in the room trying to outsmart everyone. As coach and play caller, dude is in over is head.

 

[CBBI]

 

[macbdog]

Sick and tired of these negative pathetic Cleveland media spouting garbage like this.

 

[Los216]

It's a bad call because brissett is a back up, coming in cold, deep balls aren't his game and in the same situation he probably only makes that throw 2 out of 10 times. Brissett should never ever see the field when we have to get Watson ready for next year.

It was our first drive of the game. Jacoby did not come in cold. Explain how the backup QB coming in on the first drive of the game is coming in cold.

Also how can you say that deep balls aren't in his game when we literally converted a 4th and 1 in BAL for a 30+ yard TD that was called back on a bogus OPI? Or how about the 4th down deep ball to Cooper in the game against TB?

Lastly, when you see the actual replay I want to know if you still believe that Jacoby should only complete that pass 2/10 times. Go look at how wide open DPJ was and ask yourself if Jacoby should complete that throw.

 

[letgocavs]

It was our first drive of the game. Jacoby did not come in cold. Explain how the backup QB coming in on the first drive of the game is coming in cold.

Also how can you say that deep balls aren't in his game when we literally converted a 4th and 1 in BAL for a 30+ yard TD that was called back on a bogus OPI? Or how about the 4th down deep ball to Cooper in the game against TB?

Lastly, when you see the actual replay I want to know if you still believe that Jacoby should only complete that pass 2/10 times. Go look at how wide open DPJ was and ask yourself if Jacoby should complete that throw.

He's coming in cold because he hasn't thrown a pass in two weeks and you bring him in disrupting the flow of the game for a bomb. You really can't come up with anything on 4th and 1 with Watson? That call was a fire able offense

 

[kriegs]

So in the last few posts I'm seeing that Stefanski is horrible because he's not aggressive enough on 4th downs with Watson but also he's a horrible coach because he made the worst play call of his career on 4th down? An aggressive play call?

The 4th down call was excellent. It worked, DPJ was wide open, and Brissett hits that throw 9/10 times. Insufferable hindsight analysis.

 

[Los216]

So we're doing this thing again when we skip pass the part where the coach schemes a player wide open on a play and the QB or pass catcher can't covert and we blame the play caller?

Guys, when the play call leads to a wide open player there is nothing more for the coach to do beyond that point. He can't go out there and actually make the plays. Once the play is designed, implemented, practiced, and then called in the game the coach has completed his duty. It is now on the players to execute.

That 4th and 1 play fooled the defense and led to a wide open WR in the EZ for a TD. The QB could not make the throw to complete the play. There was weeks of preparation that led to this play. We saw Jacoby come in the game last week to set this play up. So this idea that this was just a random dumb play call in nonsense. This was a well designed play that worked exactly how it should've all the way to the point of the QB completing the pass.

C'mon now. If we're going to be upset let's be upset about the right shit. If KS calls a run and the O-Line creates a massive hole but Chubb misses it on 4th and 1 are we going to fry KS and throw the play away? Or are we going to actually acknowledge that it was a good play call that lacked execution by the players?

Notice that there's not a lit of bitching and complaining about running the football? I don't hear a lot of people complaining saying that we should've ran Nick Chubb on 4th and 1. Why not? That's because people are once again skipping pass the real reason why the play didn't work and trying to poke a hole in the part of the process that actually worked.

It was a good play call with poor execution by 1 player.

Okay? Cool.

 

[Los216]

He's coming in cold because he hasn't thrown a pass in two weeks and you bring him in disrupting the flow of the game for a bomb. You really can't come up with anything on 4th and 1 with Watson? That call was a fire able offense

He just got done throwing the same amount of passes as DW4 and Joe Burrow during warm ups. The argument that Jacoby Brissette was coming in cold on the first drive of the game is as silly as saying trying a FG with Cade York is bad because he's also coming in cold.

It was our first drive of the game man. Jacoby was literally throwing passes less than 30 minutes prior of real time. He wasn't coming in cold.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Kevin has been very uncharacteristically conservative lately

It’s almost like we have been watching Pat Shurmer call plays out there with how much he’s babied Watson

 

[letgocavs]

He just got done throwing the same amount of passes as DW4 and Joe Burrow during warm ups. The argument that Jacoby Brissette was coming in cold on the first drive of the game is as silly as saying trying a FG with Cade York is bad because he's also coming in cold.

It was our first drive of the game man. Jacoby was literally throwing passes less than 30 minutes prior of real time. He wasn't coming in cold.

OK well whatever. The play call didn't work. And made no sense to me.

 

[Los216]

OK well whatever. The play call didn't work. And made no sense to me.

It made no sense to CIN either. That's why they couldn't cover it.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Go look at how wide open DPJ was and ask yourself if Jacoby should complete that throw.

The problem is that Jacoby consistently missed this throw all year besides like the one example you listed and then we get to hear all week how it was actually a great call because he SHOULD have made the throw

At a certain point it’s just not a good call

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

and Brissett hits that throw 9/10 times

Based on what lmao? The amount of times he missed similar throws all year?

The only hindsight analysis is the people who keep inflating the odds of these throws after they consistently don’t work and we have to hear, again and again, how they were actually super high percentage throws that through sheer terrible luck never get completed!

 

[Los216]

Kevin has been very uncharacteristically conservative lately

It’s almost like we have been watching Pat Shurmer call plays out there with how much he’s babied Watson

I got a bad feeling when Cooper was added to in injury report with a hip injury on Thursday. He definitely didn't look like himself. As much as I would like to see the playbook opened up it was DW4 second game and we had 1.5 good WR's yesterday, 1 TE, and an O-Line that has been regressing for the last month.

Factors.