The Kevin Stefanski: Two-Time Coach of the Year Thread

[CBBI]

Yeah because when a ball hits a receiver in the hands he should fucking catch it. The is the NFL stopping making up fucking excuses.

Am I doing it right?

Yes, you are.

The amount of excuse making we see around here for a lack of execution by the players is really jarring to me. These guys need to execute the simple plays right in front of them and if they don't, they absolutely, positively deserve to be criticized for it.

Baker Mayfield missed multiple throws that weren't under any sort of duress. It didn't cost the Browns this game against this putrid 1-10 team they were playing, but the margins get much thinner against better competition.

 

[bob2the2nd]

I'm sorry, but if you're a head coach and you can't trust your QB to make an uncontested 8 yard throw to a guy with no defenders anywhere near him in perfect weather conditions... then what are we even doing here?

Your right CBBI. Baker was fucking terrible and the browns should cut him tomorrow and trade for Mathew stafford going forward.

It's absolutely insane how impatient browns fans are when it comes to their starting QB and it was my biggest fear with taking Baker. They would never actually give him the chance to succeed

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Yes, you are.

The amount of excuse making we see around here for a lack of execution by the players is really jarring to me. These guys need to execute the simple plays right in front of them and if they don't, they absolutely, positively deserve to be criticized for it.

Baker Mayfield missed multiple throws that weren't under any sort of duress. It didn't cost the Browns this game against this putrid 1-10 team they were playing, but the margins get much thinner against better competition.

He also made throws that are rare by NFL QB standards. Pump the breaks a bit.

 

[CBBI]

Your right CBBI. Baker was fucking terrible and the browns should cut him tomorrow and trade for Mathew stafford going forward.

It's absolutely insane how impatient browns fans are when it comes to their starting QB and it was my biggest fear with taking Baker. They would never actually give him the chance to succeed

Stop being a drama queen.

We're not talking about cutting the guy. This is about the Browns feeling confident they have a quarterback they can win the Super Bowl with. That is really all that matters for the organization.

It's going to be a lot easier for the Browns to upgrade the rest of their roster. They can go out and sign high-end talent at LB, CB, DL, OL - you can sign and trade for elite talent at pretty much any position except QB basically.

I've defended Mayfield as much as anyone this year, but he cost the Browns points today on multiple occasions missing throws that NFL quarterbacks just need to make.

It didn't end up mattering in this game against this horrible opponent who is clearly tanking, but against better teams?

If Mayfield continues to struggle with some of the more simple elements of being a quarterback, then the Browns have some really difficult internal discussions to have in the immediate future. Baker being pretty good isn't good enough. The fact that he's better than most of the garbage they've trotted out there over the last 20+ years doesn't mean he's good enough.

I don't think there's been enough this season for anyone to feel confident that Baker Mayfield is the no questions asked guy the Browns should be moving forward with at the QB position.

 

[Ohio]

I'm sorry, but if you're a head coach and you can't trust your QB to make an uncontested 8 yard throw to a guy with no defenders anywhere near him in perfect weather conditions... then what are we even doing here?

You can't trust Baker to hit that throw 100% of the time.

You can trust Chubb or Hunt to get one foot in two attempts 100% of the time.

 

[CBBI]

You can't trust Baker to hit that throw 100% of the time.

You can trust Chubb or Hunt to get one foot in two attempts 100% of the time.

I say this with extreme sincerity.

If Kevin Stefanski can't trust Baker to hit that throw 100% of the time, then he simply can't and shouldn't be the QB for this team moving forward. Now obviously that doesn't mean bench him right now and go to Keenum, because Keenum is worse, but the Browns have to look elsewhere and find an upgrade if they can't trust their QB to make *that* throw.

And Hunt did get stuffed on 4th and inches the next play ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[OptimusPrime]

I say this with extreme sincerity.

If Kevin Stefanski can't trust Baker to hit that throw 100% of the time, then he simply can't and shouldn't be the QB for this team moving forward.

That may be true, but there was nothing he could do about that today. What he could do was call plays most likely to succeed with who was on the field. And Mayfield throwing the ball is never the most likely way to gain 2 inches.

 

[-Akronite-]

Seems to me that if the easy plays are the ones we are blowing, then it's a fixable problem. It's not like Baker is complete ass, he's inconsistent. And there is no play in any professional sport, no matter how pedestrian, that teams execute at 100%. Even professionals sometime miss layups and blow grounders and miss extra points.

 

[Ohio]

I say this with extreme sincerity.

If Kevin Stefanski can't trust Baker to hit that throw 100% of the time, then he simply can't and shouldn't be the QB for this team moving forward. Now obviously that doesn't mean bench him right now and go to Keenum, because Keenum is worse, but the Browns have to look elsewhere and find an upgrade if they can't trust their QB to make *that* throw.

And Hunt did get stuffed on 4th and inches the next play ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, do YOU trust Baker to make that throw 100% of the time? I sure don't...

Hunt did get stuffed (though he did reach the line to gain but...refs) and that is why you also run 3rd down.

I haven't even mentioned how running eats another 40 seconds of clock, too...

 

[adam81king]

Seems to me that if the easy plays are the ones we are blowing, then it's a fixable problem. It's not like Baker is complete ass, he's inconsistent. And there is no play in any professional sport, no matter how pedestrian, that teams execute at 100%. Even professionals sometime miss layups and blow grounders and miss extra points.

By this logic, Njoku should have more value than Kelce, right? David makes some spectacular catches and notches the easy stuff...

 

[Surge]

Yeah Baker blew that throw. And he missed others. But man he made some dig bick throws at other times in the game. Starting with the first TD pass to Landry. It was a perfectly placed ball.

Back to Stefanski. I almost forget its his first season coaching, in the toughest offseason in NFL history to be a first year coach.

 

[Ohio]

Yeah Baker blew that throw. And he missed others. But man he made some dig bick throws at other times in the game. Starting with the first TD pass to Landry. It was a perfectly placed ball.

Back to Stefanski. I almost forget its his first season coaching, in the toughest offseason in NFL history to be a first year coach.

And he's on the brink of leading the Browns to their first playoff birth in 18 years.

He's gotta be coach of the year, right?

 

[-Akronite-]

By this logic, Njoku should have more value than Kelce, right? David makes some spectacular catches and notches the easy stuff...

No, because the logic isn't about comparing players at all, simply looking at an addressable issue rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I couldn't tell you if Baker is or isn't gonna work out, but I haven't seen enough to give up on him.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

It didn't end up mattering in this game against this horrible opponent who is clearly tanking, but against better teams?

I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but I used to be the tank commander around here. I have seen plenty of obvious tanks and that Jags team was fighting the whole game for the game today. It actually annoyed me how much they cared. I don’t think they are tanking

 

[CBBI]

I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but I used to be the tank commander around here. I have seen plenty of obvious tanks and that Jags team was fighting the whole game for the game today. It actually annoyed me how much they cared. I don’t think they are tanking

I think Marrone's coaching decisions were more tank commander than the player's effort.

Punting twice from the Browns side of the field.

Accepting an offsides penalty on a made XP, opting to take the 1 point off the board in favor of going for 2... then throwing a fade from the 1 instead of running.

A few inexplicable decisions by Marrone. But he may also just be a really bad coach.