The new Beebs

[rcristal]

Not going to find a worse take than this today, and it’s not even 8am

You can’t run a franchise this way. Loser mentality.

I completely agree with you. Horrible way to run a franchise. But I have watched this well over 60 years and this describes our ownership. Hell, I coached for many years and love winning. I am all about good players and hard work. But we have lost a lot of talent over time.

What I do not understand is why a man like Paul Dolan desires to own a professional franchise.
Rcristal

 

[cliffdawg]

lol don’t know why I thought you were talking about the other beebs lol

 

[AZ_]

I completely agree with you. Horrible way to run a franchise. But I have watched this well over 60 years and this describes our ownership. Hell, I coached for many years and love winning. I am all about good players and hard work. But we have lost a lot of talent over time.

What I do not understand is why a man like Paul Dolan desires to own a professional franchise.
Rcristal

This crying is so tired.

Grow up, that's my only advice.

 

[PocketMonger]

If Shane keeps pitching this way perhaps the Gards could still get a Lindor style return from a big market team. Maybe a proven BOR who can take Shane's spot in the rotation plus a promising MOR SP prospect with TOR upside who's already producing in AA.

 

[PocketMonger]

Padres make sense since they're always willing to sell prospects and they're on the west coast. Shane for a BOR and Robby Snelling a big lefty who touches 96 who's already in AA.

 

[Criznit]

That Beeb Beeb. Beeb Beeb Beeb. Beeb.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Again....

I'm asking you guys not to make the heavy hand of authority come down in here, but the rudeness and attacks have to stop or that's where this is headed.
Last warning.

@Wham with the Right Hand

 

[Mott the Hoople]

If Bieber IS back, maybe we could try something very unusual - an extension.
I fully understand that the odds on an extension are extremely high. But maybe they could get creative.
How about a Shohei type extension, like $10 million/ year, with $10 million deferred.
I know that's not likely, but who thought Shohei's contract was likely?

 

[DCTribefan]

I completely agree with you. Horrible way to run a franchise. But I have watched this well over 60 years and this describes our ownership. Hell, I coached for many years and love winning. I am all about good players and hard work. But we have lost a lot of talent over time.

What I do not understand is why a man like Paul Dolan desires to own a professional franchise.
Rcristal

Needs cash to pay off his brother’s Senate campaign debts.

 

[macbdog]

Bieber has looked fantastic so far, hopefully he can keep it, stay healthy, the Gs can profit one way or the other (one last playoff run or get a haul in trade) and Shane gets absolutely paid in FA like he deserves to be. Just hope he doesn't land with one of the douche bag Yankees or loser Angels. In the meantime though, gonna enjoy him like we did Francisco.

 

[Huber.]

Again....

I'm asking you guys not to make the heavy hand of authority come down in here, but the rudeness and attacks have to stop or that's where this is headed.
Last warning.

@Wham with the Right Hand

Back when I was a kid we got one stern warning then someone would drop the permahammer on the second infraction. Of course, that was back when Coke was $1.75 a bottle.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

What I do not understand is why a man like Paul Dolan desires to own a professional franchise.
Rcristal

He paid $323 million for the Indians in 2000 and they are now worth $1.3 billion. That's about a billion more than he paid for the franchise. That's a potential reason.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

After seeing the Guardians trade Sabathia with three months left on his contract for a minor league outfielder named Michael Brantley, I'm sold. After seeing them trade the last year of Kluber's contract (in which he pitched one inning) for Clase, I'm sold. After seeing them trade the last 1.5 years of Clevinger's contract (he was hurt the following year) for Josh Naylor, Arias, Hedges, Quantrill, and Cantillo, I'm sold. There are more examples.

We HAVE to trade Bieber. The way he's pitching there is NO chance we can afford to extend him. There never was. There's not enough "creativity" to make it happen.

In retrospect would you rather have the 17 starts Sabathia made for the Brewers after the trade (he signed with the Yankees after the season) or the ten years of Michael Brantley?

I would trade Bieber's last 17 starts of this season for ten years of the next Michael Brantley. But I would prefer pitching, similar to the Jake Westbrook for Corey Kluber trade.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Continue to tell me you don't know how MLB financials work without outright telling me you don't know how they work.

Edit: Like I am curious. Are there people here who think it is legal to spend personal money on player contracts in professional sports?

 

[avs2000]

Bieber's frisbees were as good as I've ever seen them. It looked like the A's were missing by 9 inches all night. In spring training he was excellent as well.

Management should roll the dice and offer him 160 million for 5 years. Given Bieber's injury track record, he would probably take that.

It is a shame that Paul and Larry Dolan care more about stretching their generational wealth than they do in winning a title. After all, they represent the 3rd wealthiest MLB ownership in all of baseball. (5.5 billion) Wealthier than the Steinbrenners, or the owners in Boston, both LA teams, Frisco, the Cubs, Tigers, Houston, Philly and so on.

Sorry not offering Bieber 150 million and 6 years based on two starts
Move him at the break. Ask for a lot. One of the big market teams will take him with hopes of resigning him