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Week 10 - DIVISION SHOWDOWN: Browns @ Bengals | Thursday Night Football

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Well, hopefully the Browns can win tonight to make up the losses from the Cavs this week, not counting on it.
 
I just can't get over this team.

They SHOULD be 6-2, close to 7-1... yet they feel like they're fucking 2-6 or 3-5.
 
Apparently you didn't read the Brian Hoyer thread on Monday?

Losing Mack and Cameron to injury, and Crowell being benched, has rendered our running game useless these last few weeks. Tate and West can do literally nothing. Defenses are sending everyone and the pressure is getting to Hoyer. I see Thursday night becoming a total shitshow on national TV. Hoyer will either get hurt or pulled in this one...i feel it. Was hoping he could make it a couple more weeks until Cameron and Gordon made it back, but the line and running game are a catastrophe and that's having a negative impact on Hoyer.

Thursday we will get curb stomped. Our line will get destroyed, running game will be a no-show again and Hoyer will have no time to throw. The decision will be made to give Johnny a try since he's more elusive.

Another Thursday night blowout for the NFL. 30-3. Bengals win.
 
These kinds of games are the games the Browns lose. They are at a pivotal point in the season where the record is OK but a win vs a divisional opponent can really propel the team into a true playoff contender. In the past we lose this game and the season swirls down the toilet bowl pretty fast. Hopefully we take a step forward and win a big game we aren't supposed to.
 
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Brian Billick really pissed me off on Mike & Mike this morning.

"The Browns are 5-3 and I'm not sure how they're doing it besides play action rollouts to wide open receivers." So... Our receivers gaining separation counts for nothing? He sounded a bit misinformed.
He's not wrong though.. This is the problem with the offense. It works beautifully when everything is clicking, they run the ball well, and receivers are getting wide open more consistently on these play actions. When the running game is not working, they will still have these opportunities from time to time in play action, but Brian Hoyer is not accurate enough or good enough to function consistently when he has to make plays or "throw" receivers open not created by play action. It's a problem. He's not the kind of QB you can just tell to drop back and make the right throws, because it's not going to happen.
 
I'm so glad Whitner is living up to the contract the past few weeks... I was getting worried. I'm taking the family out for pizza to watch this one, last time I went out in public to watch a Browns game the Jax debacle occurred. It was utterly scarring.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/81901/donte-whitner-team-cant-be-wide-eyed-about-thursday-night-hype

Donte Whitner: Team can't be wide-eyed about Thursday night hype
November, 5, 2014
Nov 5

BEREA, Ohio -- One of the many appropriate and insightful things that Donte Whitner had to say about Greg Little's ramblings about making someone pay because the Cleveland Browns cut him was this:

"Bulletin board material is like an imaginary thing. The game is going to be played on a Thursday night. I'm not going to play any harder. He's not going to play any harder. If you are, then you've been cheating yourself and your football team."

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WhitnerWhich sums up Whitner -- and perhaps Little -- perfectly. Players who say they will play harder in any one game are basically admitting they didn't play as hard as they could in a previous game. One definition of being a pro is doing your best when you feel your worst.

It all illustrates part of the reason the Browns brought Whitner to Cleveland as a free agent in the offseason. First is he's a good player -- and Whitner has had two very good games in a row the past two weeks.

But the team also wanted someone who had been in a winning culture and been through the biggest of games, and Whitner had done that in San Francisco, playing in both the NFC Championship Game and the Super Bowl.

He's also been through Thursday night games, so when he talks about the upcoming game between the Browns and Cincinnati Bengals, it's worth listening.

"It's a different feel," he said, "until the ball is kicked off. Then it's just normal football."

It's true of all hyped regular-season games. There's a lot of talk and hoopla and excitement, but when the game starts, it's a game like any another. (See Cleveland Cavaliers opener.)

Whitner and guys like Karlos Dansby and Paul Kruger have been on teams where night games and changed routines were regularities because winning teams get more prime-time games. Coach Mike Pettine admitted the team wants more of them because of what they mean.

The key to the games, in Whitner's mind: "Keep everything the same. Don't allow the lights and the magnitude of the game to affect you. Use the fundamentals and use the things that have helped us win five games."

Which might be easier said than done for guys who have not been through it. Players gear up for night games. They know they're the only team playing and the entire nation will be watching. They are excited about it. Many years back, Butch Davis coached a struggling Browns team but the defensive backs came up with a gimmick to "brush off" a teammate who made a good play, just because it was Monday night. It's not difficult to go overboard.

Whitner does not deny there is plenty of buzz about the Browns heading into the game, but he doesn't want that to affect the team's preparation.

"My role is more important just to make sure the guy doesn't get stage fright or worry about the added cameras or just it being a nationally televised game," he said. "We have to go out there and play our game as if it's a 1 o'clock game, a 4:30 game."

Whitner was made aware that the Bengals are 13-0-1 at home the last 14 games, and the Browns haven't won a road AFC North game since 2008. He had another succint response.

"It was a daunting thing to play
Ben Roethlisberger when he was 18-1 against the Browns," he said. "We don't worry about previous records."

He admitted some guys could be star-struck, and the potential to play out of character is there. But he also said he doesn't foresee that happening.

"We'll be ready," he said.
 
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The minute West tries to do his little toe-tapping juke moves and gets negative yardage, we better see a Crowell sighting.

I don't want to hear the "You are the only game playing tonight, players might be nervous." You are a professional athlete. This isn't the freakin' Super Bowl. A lot of these players have played in a big college football game at night. Whoever on our team that is nervous to play tonight should be sent to the Gladiators.
 
Yeah. So the weather is shitty as fuck down here in cincinnati. Windy and wet. And paul brown stadium can get pretty gusty.

Passing will be very very difficult if the weather doesn't get better. I'm not sure if that helps us or not. :chuckles:
 
I'm interested to see Hoyer play in shitty weather. He grew up in Cleveland, played college ball at Michigan State, then went to New England. I have planned spring breaks for none of these locations.
 
I'm interested to see Hoyer play in shitty weather. He grew up in Cleveland, played college ball at Michigan State, then went to New England. I have planned spring breaks for none of these locations.

Personally i did plenty of spring breaks in cleveland growing up or during college.
 

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