Week #6 - Arizona Cardinals @ Cleveland Browns (-2.5) - 4:05 p.m. on Fox

[Chris]

Love Baker, but he’s not a franchise QB.

 

[CBBI]

If there's one glaring problem that needs to be instantly changed, it's the defense. I don't live for the off-season and neither should you, Kevin, Haslam, or the Browns. We live for the now, and now should see change. The defensive scheme has to be scrapped and get back to basics. We still have the Ravens twice, the Pack, the rising Bengals twice, there's hard games and alot of easy ones left.

If the Browns are going to improve, it's not going to start with Baker or Odell. You know where it starts. 84 points in 2 weeks. That shit is wild.

I get why you're frustrated, and I'm not even saying something like this *shouldn't* happen, but they're not scrapping the defensive scheme. This is the scheme that Stefanski wants to run. They just aren't executing it at a high enough level.

They're absolutely not scrapping the entire defensive scheme after 6 games and installing something brand new with a different defensive coordinator. It's just not happening. Even if they fired Woods, they'd be promoting Jeff Howard or Jason Tarver and they'd be running this scheme anyway.

 

[MGMT]

Love Baker, but he’s not a franchise QB.

Sure he is; he just needs to have elite talent around him at all times and always have a lead

He isn’t much if anything without being surrounded by outstanding talent and playing with a lead. I absolutely hate the idea of paying him top dollar and watching this roster decline as a result of it because he’s never going to elevate what’s around him.

Mira not like we are saying this after his 7th career start. If someone wants to be optimistic and say they think he’ll be consistently excellent by the time he reaches 30 then ….sweet?

 

[caf]

I pray they kyler will live after that vicious attack

 

[Real Deal]

I pray they kyler will live after that vicious attack

Refs should be fined for cheating shit like this

 

[caf]

Refs should be fined for cheating shit like this

The media just needs to ask the NFL who has money on these games.

A sky judge could easily overturn these poor calls so easily. And it could be private too! They huddle up and go “sky judge what did you see”.

But the fact the nfl keeps getting it wrong in more games than this makes me feel like someone is making money. Somehow. Theres really no excuse as the technology exists for these calls to not happen.

 

[Real Deal]

You just can't give NFL QBs free plays like that. Herbert on the PI call last week.

It's disgusting and quite frankly it's sucks being on the shit end of the stick.

 

[caf]

Id get it if it was the 1970s and the technology didnt exist… But everyone in the world knows the right call in 5 seconds.

Everyone except the refs making the calls. How is that possible.

 

[bgfalcon]

Sure he is; he just needs to have elite talent around him at all times and always have a lead

He isn’t much if anything without being surrounded by outstanding talent and playing with a lead. I absolutely hate the idea of paying him top dollar and watching this roster decline as a result of it because he’s never going to elevate what’s around him.

Mira not like we are saying this after his 7th career start. If someone wants to be optimistic and say they think he’ll be consistently excellent by the time he reaches 30 then ….sweet?

Soooo….he’s not?

Everyone saying the season is over, woosah.

Woods needs an ass chewing, we need Chubb healthy and our OTs back. There’s still time.

I don’t think the season is over but if pit wins and we’re tied for last place in afc north it’s not great. We have a lot to work on and I think the biggest concern is we haven’t performed consistently great with all the talent we have. We need our qb1 to perform as such and our defense to start peforming much better.

 

[caf]

I want the browns to walk off the field and forfeit the next trash call they get from the refs. Im dead serious. Hard for the league to ignore it then.

 

[hud11]

I’m sure this has been mentioned earlier, but if it’s not fourth and 1, just kick the f-ing fg. Baker has been sacked on fourth down more than he’s completed a pass. Take the points. I’d have to think Stefanski is thinking the same. Or at least he should be early in these games. It wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome today, but still with two tackles missing, just take the points.

 

[Marcus]

I’m sure this has been mentioned earlier, but if it’s not fourth and 1, just kick the f-ing fg. Baker has been sacked on fourth down more than he’s completed a pass. Take the points. I’d have to think Stefanski is thinking the same. Or at least he should be early in these games. It wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome today, but still with two tackles missing, just take the points.

So I don't necessarily disagree, but down early and with the wind blowing like it was today, I can understand not kicking the FG.

 

[Los216]

I’m sure this has been mentioned earlier, but if it’s not fourth and 1, just kick the f-ing fg. Baker has been sacked on fourth down more than he’s completed a pass. Take the points. I’d have to think Stefanski is thinking the same. Or at least he should be early in these games. It wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome today, but still with two tackles missing, just take the points.

The QB getting sacked on multiple 4th downs seems more like an issue with the QB than the coach

 

[CBBI]

I’m sure this has been mentioned earlier, but if it’s not fourth and 1, just kick the f-ing fg. Baker has been sacked on fourth down more than he’s completed a pass. Take the points. I’d have to think Stefanski is thinking the same. Or at least he should be early in these games. It wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome today, but still with two tackles missing, just take the points.

No.

The Browns lost by 23 and have a bad defense. They have to try and score touchdowns on every possible possession when they're playing a good team. Field goals are not the way.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

If you cannot get a 4th and less than 3, you don't deserve to win.