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Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

TT does a lot for this team in the paint, a more consistent and possible serious deep threat could REALLY space the floor out for Kyrie, Dion, and TT. Who knows, maybe the Cavs intend to flip him to another team? I trust Grant to do what he feels improves this team.....

Also, I don't invision a scenario where Ross ends up in Cleveland.....

With Gay on the team one of Ross or DeRozan should be expendable.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/...zz-talk-eric-bledsoe-paul-millsap-sources-say

Sunday, February 17, 2013
Sources: Bledsoe for Millsap eyed
By Ramona Shelburne and Marc Stein
ESPN.com

The Los Angeles Clippers' options for dealing Eric Bledsoe, should they reverse course and decide to part with their prized young point guard, appear to be increasing before Thursday's NBA trade deadline.
Sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com late Saturday that there is a level of mutual interest between the Clippers and Utah Jazz in exploring a deal that would feature Bledsoe as the headliner in a trade package for Jazz forward Paul Millsap.
Although two sources with knowledge of the Clippers' thinking insisted during All-Star Weekend that Bledsoe would not be moved in coming days and strongly predicted that L.A. would stand pat, two other sources indicated that the Clippers and Jazz will at least discuss the feasibility of a trade headlined by Bledsoe and Millsap before the deadline.
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The Boston Celtics have expressed the league's most well-chronicled interest in trading for Bledsoe, through a deal that would require Celtics forward Kevin Garnett to waive his no-trade clause so Boston could send Garnett to L.A. for Bledsoe and either young center DeAndre Jordan or veteran forward Caron Butler.
But Garnett was adamant Saturday in a media session with reporters in conjunction with the East's All-Star practice in Houston that there is no scenario in which he'd consent to waive the no-trade clause, irrespective of his close relationship with Clippers guard Chauncey Billups or the fact that he makes his offseason home in Malibu.
The Clippers have been telling teams for weeks that they value Bledsoe too highly to move him now. It's widely presumed that he'll be traded eventually, given the fact he's playing behind Chris Paul and is only expected to continue to improve, but rival executives have been pessimistic about the likelihood of prying Bledsoe away until Paul is signed to a long-term deal, which won't happen until July. Bledsoe himself, furthermore, isn't a restricted free agent until the summer of 2014, which is said to only add to the desire of Clippers management to be patient.
Yet there is a school of thought that the Clippers' best move to increase the chances of the sort of deep playoff run that would clinch Paul's signature on a new long-term deal this summer is trying to trade for Garnett or Boston teammate Paul Pierce to fortify the roster with more playoff experience.
The appeal of Millsap, by contrast, is that he'd conceivably help the Clippers in the frontcourt immediately as well as in the future because of his age (28). Utah's interest in finding a good young point guard, meanwhile, is an open secret around the league that has led to longstanding speculation that either Millsap or Al Jefferson would be moved by the deadline, given that both are scheduled to become free agents like Paul in July.
Bledsoe, 23, would certainly appear to fit well with with the Jazz as they retool around a younger core of Enes Kanter, Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward. Utah also has an immediate need at point guard as it awaits the return of Mo Williams from a thumb injury after Williams. -- acquired from the Clippers over the summer -- completes the final year of his contract.
But the Clippers would have to add at least one player to a Millsap deal to make the salary-cap math work if talks progressed to a serious level. And sources say L.A.'s front office remains wary of breaking up or shaking up its current roster, which generated a franchise-record 17 wins in a row in January and is finally back to full strength with the recent returns of Paul, Griffin, Billups, Jamal Crawford and Grant Hill from injury.
Referring specifically to the oft-mentioned idea of surrendering Bledsoe to get Garnett, after praising Garnett's "intensity" profusely, Paul told reporters in Houston on Saturday: "I think people are just talking."
In an interview Friday with ESPN Radio, Garnett said: "[Celtics president of basketball operations] Danny [Ainge], since Day 1, even when Ray (Allen) was here, the first day we got there he always told us he would do whatever he had to do to make the team better, he wouldn't put guys above the team. That was the foundation and we all understood that, never had a problem with it. I've always told him where I was as far as being a Celtic. My expectations were not to come back to be traded. We both understand that, but this is a business and you have to understand that.
"It's my preference (that) I will retire a Celtic and be buried in green and that's where it stands. As far as the organization, where they feel they want to go, their visions for the future, I can't speak on that. You have to ask them that. For right now, this is what it is. If it changes, I'll have to deal with that."
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

Barg can still stretch the floor and fill it up...his jumpers inside the 3 pt line are still very good... his rebounding isn't great but I can handle 6 a game if TT is hitting teh boards and Barg is scoring 18-20 a game like he is very capable of...also I think Kyrie and Dion driving and kicking or picking and popping with Barg could really help
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

Barg can still stretch the floor and fill it up...his jumpers inside the 3 pt line are still very good... his rebounding isn't great but I can handle 6 a game if TT is hitting teh boards and Barg is scoring 18-20 a game like he is very capable of...also I think Kyrie and Dion driving and kicking or picking and popping with Barg could really help

I refuse to even try to talk myself into Bargnani.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

No interest in Bargnani...at all. Only way I'd consider it is if we get at least 1 unprotected 1st rounder with him, or DeRozan/Ross.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

Bargani would be a pretty decent fit in the offense next to TT.......for like 9 mil a year.

Unless they are somehow making Derozan available, not seeing a reason to do such a trade.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

Please god no on Bargnani. Dude is never healthy and if you think Dion is a chucker some nights...you should see Bargnani. Dude's three point shot isn't even that good.

No way.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline (discussion)

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Talk has been picking up about the trade deadline, and it will only increase after the ASG tonight. So I've moved this thread for general discussion to Cavs Talk. The "updates" thread will be updated as neeeded.

Individual trade threads are still active in the Trade Forum.

Enjoy. :thumbup:
 
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Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline (discussion)

Can't wait for Bargnani to teach our guys how to play defense.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline (discussion)

Bargnani is owed $12m for 2014/15. In other words -- no chance.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline (discussion)

My sense on the Bargnani rumor was that the Raptors begged the Toronto reporter to mention that other teams (Warriors, Cavs) had shown some interest in Bargnani, no matter the actual level of interest.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline Thread

Barg can still stretch the floor and fill it up...his jumpers inside the 3 pt line are still very good... his rebounding isn't great but I can handle 6 a game if TT is hitting teh boards and Barg is scoring 18-20 a game like he is very capable of...also I think Kyrie and Dion driving and kicking or picking and popping with Barg could really help

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Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline (discussion)

If the Raptors want to pay half of his contract and throw us Ross then sure, why not?

Barg has one of the worst contracts in the league.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline (discussion)

If the Raptors want to pay half of his contract and throw us Ross then sure, why not?

Because the Cavs would still be on the hook for paying Bargnani a lot of money in 2014-2015. That would necessitate some other difficult choices/moves. Cavs would have to absolutely love some young player coming along in the deal for them to consider trading for Bargnani. Just hard to see the right deal here.
 
Re: 2012-2013 Trade Deadline (discussion)

Between Bargnani missing threes and Ross missing dunks, we'd be in for a real treat... even before Andrea would fuck up our cap situation in 2014
 

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